More proof that Jeep is the leader in 4x4 overland vehicles

[kojackJKU]

yep, everything from a babys fart to a clap of thunder is available for the popular kids! Like I said, as long as you get out, thats all that matters.

 

[Weekender41]

I had a 98 pathy, I LOVED IT....just needed a lift.

Belly draggers for sure but yeah they are stout little machines!

 

[kojackJKU]

yep. 2 wks after I had it, I hit a moose, 13,000 in damage. Since then I have been rocking the lighting. No issues anymore.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

This thread does show the strong brand loyalty we all have.

When using a JK with a payload of 1000lbs with no ways of increasing it how do you equip it for expedition travel and stay legal and safe?


2 = people 300lbs

 

[JIMBO]

:sombrero: I load the jeep and take my trailer-that over 2200lbs total-payload

This thread does show the strong brand loyalty we all have.

When using a JK with a payload of 1000lbs with no ways of increasing it how do you equip it for expedition travel and stay legal and safe?


2 = people 300lbs

Survival of the fittest-

:costumed-smiley-007:wings: JIMBO

 

[kojackJKU]

I have had more than 1000 lbs in my Jeep and its safe. Had me 215lbs , my wife 120 lbs, my 16 year old son who is 6'1 and 180 and his friend who is 6'0 and 150, both sets of their hockey gear, our travel gear and I had no issues driving 110kph. High winds (which we usually have) to boot. the ratings on the JK are off as far as I concern.

 

[haven]

So you're saying the manufacturer's vehicle weight rating can be ignored?

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

I won't participate in this thread any more-


:snorkel::snorkel: JIMBO

You are over weight and illegal

 

[kojackJKU]

I do. especially with american vehicles, remember, the litigation happy country they come from makes sure to err on the side of extremes to keep the lawsuits down. Look at the rating in europe, its way higher.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

I do. especially with american vehicles, remember, the litigation happy country they come from makes sure to err on the side of extremes to keep the lawsuits down. Look at the rating in europe, its way higher.

We are in the US and US lawyers and US courts do not recognize ratings from Europe

 

[kojackJKU]

I am NOT in the US. perfect for me!

 

[K2ZJ]

You are over weight and illegal

Link? No new Jeeps have a GVWR of 10,001 right?

Oh, and you must be driving for commerce.

 

[java]

I'm glad you brought up those videos - I think that's THE BIGGEST reason why North American vehicles have lower payload and tow ratings than EU versions - Safety and Lawyers. The next reason is comfort, which requires softer springs.

Let's be honest with ourselves, does anyone really think a LC70, Defender, or even Unimog loaded to its max GVW can pass a moose test? Should we expect them to? What about a cement mixer truck or tractor trailer?

I doubt even the frame is the limiting factor. There's no industry standard when it comes to frame strength. I'm willing to bet a late-70's "3/4 ton" pickup with C-channel frame is weaker than the modern fully boxed and hydroformed "1/2 ton".

Remember, in the commercial trucking world, your GVW is almost always your GAWRs combined. It's always assumed that your springs are stiff enough to handle the rated axle load. I have never seen "payload" or "tow rating" in a standard Kenworth or Peterbilt spec sheet. Only steer and rear tandem axle load ratings.

Please note the moose test are not done by any us safety boards, its not a US based test. I dont think that the lawyers etc have much to do with it. Its probably based on how the different safety agencies calculate them

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Link? No new Jeeps have a GVWR of 10,001 right?

Oh, and you must be driving for commerce.

http://www.quadratec.com/jeep_knowledgebase/article-104.htm

 

[K2ZJ]

http://www.quadratec.com/jeep_knowledgebase/article-104.htm

No where in that link is there a law stating that driving over the GVWR is illegal.