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[Clutch]

5.1 seconds 0-60 for the 3.5HO in the super crew Limited. Second fastest truck 0-60 ever built. Only the Dodge SRT 10 could beat it, and that was a regular cab that could not tow or haul. The Limited not only hauls posterior, but does so while maintaining its payload and tow ratings. Its comfortable and quite. The seats are awesome and it has one hell of a frame under it.

Did you ever consider that some people like luxury vehicles, fast vehicles, and owning a truck. The limited let's them have all three in one vehicle. Some people don't like driving bottom of the line trucks. The irony is it cost less than a new Land Cruiser... yet not a soul here cosiders the Land Cruiser to be laughable at its price point...nope... this entire website drools over them.

To me it's no more laughable than most of the "expo" trucks on this site that suck gas, can't keep up in a modern interstate,m and look like they drove through a sporting goods store and all the debris stuck.

Actually...I think the price of the LC200 is ridicolous too. Not crazy about a bunch of crap hanging off the sides and roof of "expo" vehicles ether...really, who needs that much stuff to go car camping!? It is more about portraying a tough outdoorsy image than anything.

Trying to figure out what image the luxo-truck demographic is trying to portray....all hat and no cattle? No way that guy is getting his hands dirty. Perhaps his wife won't let him have a Porsche. Figures he can't get into too much trouble with young women driving a pickup truck...

 

[Buliwyf]

If I see one more set of scratch free, brand new Maxtracs......

At least run them over in the driveway or something before mounting them to your ride.

 

[Kingsize24]

Is that going to fit through a 7' garage door?

On 35's it is 6' 9" with Thuren front level coils up front. I do know that. Mine fit in our 7' door. I would assume the Ford is the same. They have very similar suspension setups.

 

[Dalko43]

No... you can absolutely get 100whp out of either motor with out any I'll side effects. People have been doing it for many years. Companies like Brewcity Boost have gotten the tuning down to a science.

Dude, no offense but you're talking out of your ******. There is no free lunch. If you tune an engine for massive horsepower gains there will be a decrease in reliability. The guys and gals who have been fiddling with turbo diesel 3/4 tons and turbo gasoline performance cars already know this. Most engines aren't overbuilt to reliably handle that kind of horsepower increase, and let's not forget that most of the other chassis and driveline components weren't engineered with that power delivery in mind.

As for the advantages of the EcoBoost whilst towing... even if you ignore the fuel economy, the performance is dramatically better. The bottom pic is the 3.5HO vs the best that Chevy and Dodge have (6.2l and some hybrid Hemi).... look who won every single time when it comes to acceleration. Every single time.... not once did its competition pull away.

Notice I didn't say that there weren't any power/torque advantages. Rather I said there was no mpg advantage when towing/hauling with the ecoboost engine. I'm sure the power delivery is very good compared to a traditional naturally aspirated v8, but you're paying a bit more for that engine, and Ford recommends midgrade or higher octane fuel to get the most out of the engine in towing applications....so similar to a diesel, there is extra performance to be had, but you're going to pay extra for it.

 

[Grump E-Vet]

My vote is for a Subaru or the diesel Colorado/Canyon.

I hate to endorse these options as an Ram/Jeep guy but yes pretty close though the 2019 Ram 1500 with the 48V mild hybrid system would be up there. Then you could go VVT 5.7 Hemi V8, Their EcoBoost Diesel or sending on if you plan on towing their 3.5L Pentastar V6 (In the Wrangler and a ton of other FCA vehicles).

 

[Dalko43]

Didn't know towing was a race.

It's not, but some people like to promote tow times and stop light drag race results like they're the end-all-be-all. Personally, I think such metrics are nice to know, but are ultimately low in priority compared to other attributes that I'm looking for in a truck.

Most people who tow professionally prefer a little bit more reliability and durability over outright tow times and performance....hence why you see a lot of derated C&C trucks towing the heavier loads out on the highways.

If you want the utmost in tow performance, you're going to look at a 3/4 or 1 ton gasoline or diesel. If you want a jack-of-all-trades vehicle that will reliably get you from point A to point B, you're looking at a 1/2 ton or midsized suv or truck....I could care less if the vehicle tows a little bit slower up some grade that I'll likely never encounter, so long as it works reliably over the long run. I suspect that except for a few Ken Block wanna-be's, most other truck owners are the same.

 

[Buliwyf]

I don't want wrench under a suby on canada gravel.

 

[Simons]

We seem to be focused on brand new vehicles, $40,000 goes a very long way outfitting something used. I do love the idea of the well equipped Canyon and it’s cool 2.8 D-max option but the box might be a bit small... In my experience, two people and a small dog can fit cozily on the bench seat of a regular cab pickup, giving you the option of an 8’ bed and canopy to outfit, that extra 1.5’ of length makes a big difference. I loved the reliability and simplicity of my 96 5.0L 1500 Silverado, can be had with a manual floor shift t-case too. Being out west you should be able to find a rust free candidate to build. The long box trucks came with a 129 litre fuel tank too, leave it stock and that’d get ya about 750kms give or take. You’ll loose a bit on mileage but a mild lift and 33”s and you’ll still easily be under 7’.
The older Ford Excursions had solid front axles and a 7.3L diesel option, good write up in the current issue of Overland Journal. They are pretty tall though.


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[Buliwyf]

Can get a brand new CC truck everywhere for under $40 000. Just have to forego the chrome plated door handles.

 

[Clutch]

It's not, but some people like to promote tow times and stop light drag race results like they're the end-all-be-all. Personally, I think such metrics are nice to know, but are ultimately low in priority compared to other attributes that I'm looking for in a truck.

Most people who tow professionally prefer a little bit more reliability and durability over outright tow times and performance....hence why you see a lot of derated C&C trucks towing the heavier loads out on the highways.

If you want the utmost in tow performance, you're going to look at a 3/4 or 1 ton gasoline or diesel. If you want a jack-of-all-trades vehicle that will reliably get you from point A to point B, you're looking at a 1/2 ton or midsized suv or truck....I could care less if the vehicle tows a little bit slower up some grade that I'll likely never encounter, so long as it works reliably over the long run. I suspect that except for a few Ken Block wanna-be's, most other truck owners are the same.

The article jnich posted up has 0-100 times. ummm....yeah, if you're worried about what your 0-100 mph times are you probably shouldn't be towing. You're a danger to yourself and others.

Certainly get the need to go fast, but it should be saved for the race track and not public streets. Everybody is in a **********' hurry anymores, but not me, that is for sure.

I drive the speed limit, yet nearly everybody rides my ass. I have the "<---PASS" sticker on the back of my truck, should get the "I CAN go slower!" magnet too.

 

[Simons]

Can get a brand new CC truck everywhere for under $40 000. Just have to forego the chrome plated door handles.

Lol! Exactly


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[Buliwyf]

I can't handle a rig that can't go the posted speed limit. 70-75mph isn't too much to ask for in the flat. And then slow down in the mountains if traffic is slow. That's why I avoid pathetically slow, giant campers. I jet down I-75, Ohio to Key West, often.

My days of under equipped and over loaded Jeeps, Rovers, and SUV's is over. But I don't need Momo engines to haul less than 12 000# GCVWR either.

 

[Clutch]

I can't handle a rig that can't go the posted speed limit. 70-75mph isn't too much to ask for in the flat. And then slow down in the mountains if traffic is slow. That's why I avoid pathetically slow, giant campers. I jet down I-75, Ohio to Key West, often.

My days of under equipped and over loaded Jeeps, Rovers, and SUV's is over. But I don't need Momo engines to haul less than 12 000# GCVWR either.

My 190HP/220TQ Tacoma goes 80 easily. Do I like driving 80? That would be a no. Why I try to avoid the interstate as much as possible. Driving on that is about as much fun as watching grass grow. Why I stick to the back roads, so much more to see...you'll miss it all blasting at 80. When I lived in PA, we used to make that Florida bomb run once/twice a year, and it sucks. Now out West...no hurry at all, like plunking along and enjoying the view.

Most of the secondary highways I drive here have a max speed limit of 65, which my truck does with ease. If I see someone who is in more of a hurry than me on a 2-Lane...I am polite and pull over.

Don't need 1000 ft/lbs of torque to do this...speed limit on this road is 25-40. Vehicle combinations no longer than 21' allowed on it either. No massive 5th wheelers allowed. As they say, less is more.

 

[D45]

I have owned a 3.5 Eco for around 55,000 miles

It works well, has great features and capabilities......but I would not own one again

 

[Regcabguy]

I have owned a 3.5 Eco for around 55,000 miles

It works well, has great features and capabilities......but I would not own one again

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