Most Carried Load on ur Crusier Thread....

4x4abc

Adventurer
I remember the early days of pro/con seatbelt discussions
of course all the manly men opposed such stupid contraptions
they would be much safer without them
strong arms and good reactions would keep you way from that windshield glass
common sense would take care of everything
right

then a test was published - cool video
some passenger cut open to almost look like a bath tub on wheels
driver was a trained body builder (like Arnold)
speed was 5 mph
then the car hit a concrete block

would the guy be able to keep himself inside the car?
well, he flew right over the steering wheel
commons sense? quick reactions? slow speed?
try physics!
helped Einstein to gain some status (from the few that understood him)
 

Klierslc

Explorer
Regardless of weight (darn near 11 tons), I am trying to visualize that much hay in a small truck bed and I cant, they must have been stacked, what, 40' high?

Yes, really.

Why would I make that up? It was a long bed ford dually and we had an intermediate platform in order to get the bales up. The two guys rolling bales would get them up to the tailgate, the guy on the tailgate would swing them up to me and I would swing them up the guys on top. Last load of the season with a storm approaching--we didn't have time to go unload and come back.
 

Klierslc

Explorer
Whatever you need to tell yourself. Would you recommend people overloading vehicles and taking to the road? That's the message this thread seems to promote. "I saw this guy that did the same thing before... I don't understand what went wrong?"


Not sure I understand where you two are coming from with the necessity of doing this.

He needed drywall. End of story. You guys are all saying "he should hav edone this, or that, or the other" but don't know his situation. Neither do I. However, based on the stance of the truck, he doesn't appear to be any more top heavy than the cargo vans that run around with all kinds of crap on top.

Beating someone up for making his cruiser unsafe....sure, beating someone up for making his cruiser handle like a cargo van....not so much.

I think the fact that people are condoning this is disturbing. Physics apply to everyone, even if you are "safe".

And?

Risk and reward.

Reward = drywall at home

Risk = accident. How would you defend against a personal lawsuit from somebody you rear-ended?

What does the load have to do with rear ending someone? If you looked down at the radio you could rear end someone just as easily. Personally, I would rather drive on streets filled with overloaded cruisers piloted by attentive drivers who understand the risks rather than the text happy yahoos that I battle every day in the DC area. I would bet a paycheck that even with the load on, he was a lot safer than your typical teenage driver...
 

sprocket3

Adventurer
Let's just agree that we all disagree at this point. No point to argue back and forth over all the details that we don't even know. It's like debating how fast you can safely drive. Be careful with heavy loads and take it slow while knowing the risks.

The most i have hauled with my 100 is an 18 foot trailer.

The most I have hauled with my modified 80 is my modified 80, which seems to be about all it can haul up a hill with some gear for the weekend. Can't tow anything and it feels top heavy with nothing on the roof.

Anybody else got anything of interest?
 

tacollie

Glamper
That is a horrible idea. How tall are you. It is way to much work to get all that on top of the cruiser and then back off. :sombrero:

100s have good brakes and he made it home safe.
 

CLK Foxhall

Adventurer
NOTE TO SELF: Do not over-load roof of Cruiser. However, if done,... do not post pics on Expo website.


Cheers!
~CLK
 

Christian P.

Expedition Leader
Staff member
This thread illustrates profound cultural differences.

In Africa, people think that you would have plenty of room for more.

In America, people think that you would get sued.

:)
 
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Fireman78

Expedition Leader
NOTE TO SELF: Do not over-load roof of Cruiser. However, if done,... do not post pics on Expo website.


Cheers!
~CLK

I wont say anything I promise! Those "weight limits" are just suggestions anyway. (I've never been afraid of lawsuits anyways) You should see how much gravel I fit into the back of my Power Wagon. :sombrero:
 

alexrex20

Explorer
Sometimes things need to be done that are not the "safest". Oh well. Just for comparison, In my hay hauling days we put 108 200lb bales in the back of a 1 ton ford dually. The axles hit the bumpstops at about 80 bales. Safe? No. Necessary? Yes.

How is that NECESSARY? was there an emergency that you needed to haul all 108 bales at once? whose hay were you hauling that neither you nor they had a proper trailer to haul it on?

just because you also make ridiculously irresponsible tow/haul decisions (like the OP), it does not make it OK. it just makes you both equally stupid.

and for the record, i don't believe 108 hay bales will fit in the back of a pickup truck. period. that's over 20klb payload. if you're going to come up with a lie, at least make it somewhat realistic.
 

Fireman78

Expedition Leader
Had to do it... :coffeedrink:
 

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RonL

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Big LC loads....
 

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Klierslc

Explorer
Yes, really.

Why would I make that up? It was a long bed ford dually and we had an intermediate platform in order to get the bales up. The two guys rolling bales would get them up to the tailgate, the guy on the tailgate would swing them up to me and I would swing them up the guys on top. Last load of the season with a storm approaching--we didn't have time to go unload and come back.

How is that NECESSARY? was there an emergency that you needed to haul all 108 bales at once? whose hay were you hauling that neither you nor they had a proper trailer to haul it on?

just because you also make ridiculously irresponsible tow/haul decisions (like the OP), it does not make it OK. it just makes you both equally stupid.

and for the record, i don't believe 108 hay bales will fit in the back of a pickup truck. period. that's over 20klb payload. if you're going to come up with a lie, at least make it somewhat realistic.


Umm, read the thread. And also, have you ever hauled hay? Don't call me a liar unless you were there counting the bales.

Also, if you have something to bring to the discussion, then do so. Calling people stupid irresponsible liars adds nothing to the thread and makes you look like a 3rd grader.

However, you seem to be drinking the koolaid, so don't let me stand in your way.
 
I used to have a 77 FJ45 LWB pickup with 9.00R16s, Perkins 4.236 diesel conversion and NP540 5spd.
I used to launch and pull out at the boat ramp in Dillingham, Alaska my 32' gillnetter, using a pintle hitch. I would tow it about 4-5 miles to my house, usually in low range. The trailer had no brakes. The boat weighed at least 20000 lb + the trailer 2-3000. But in low range with that motor just taking one's foot off the pedal would quickly slow down.
I never exceeded 15 mph.

Charlie
 

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