Box Rocket
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Starting your own "bro-fight" (as you call it) I see. :cough: hypocrisyWhatever.
Put up or shut up:
Still waiting for you to share any real first hand experience to back up your google search answers.
Starting your own "bro-fight" (as you call it) I see. :cough: hypocrisyWhatever.
Put up or shut up:
No I'm not. I am pointing out that he should explain how it can be done. That he should provide the actual evidence. That's not the same as the "bro-off" you wanted. You wanted me to ship my car so we could see which was better. Like a 13-yo. There is no hypocrisy at all from my side. I want him to come up with some evidence for his claims. To show how it is possible.Starting your own "bro-fight" (as you call it) I see. :cough: hypocrisy
LOL, yes. When asked for how you can get around the problems caused by the wheels being connected, you first tried out a bunch of lies and then a bunch of distractions. Then a lie about you having already explained it, then you attempted a bro-off, and finally you asked for what you asked for above.Still waiting for you to share any real first hand experience to back up your google search answers.
How do you stop one wheel from reacting when the other does, while keeping them rigidly connected?
How do remove enough unsprung weight so it is at least comparable to an independent setup, while still being rigidly connected?
No I'm not. You're asking me to ignore real problems: Less unsprung weight is better than more. It is not good that one wheel reacts when the other is being moved.You're asking the wrong questions, because you're trying to solve the wrong problems.
Whatever.
Actually, I could invite you to come to Europe and talk to any suspension engineer of your choosing. Your claims and suggestions are ridiculous. To the point where you think that by offering an "invite" you somehow prove your point.
You truly are dishonest, aren't you. Anything to defend an indefensible position.Deflecting.
I'll keep waiting, but I won't hold my breath.
Sure you have. Just like the "knowledge" that rubbed off on you.Sorry too late. Already been, Opel, Ford, VAG, PSA.
I am not naive at all. You have shown yourself to lie and make up ********.The invite was tongue in cheek but it turns out it did have a point. Proving how naive you are about the auto industry
I am saying that solid axle vehicles are much more prevalent in the US than in Europe. US is beginning to make modern suspension designs in general, but it's a standing joke around here that when the mustang finally got independent suspension at the back 5 years ago or so, it was a big deal in the US. Here, we kind of expect supposed sports cars to have that.Pretending Europe and the US has some sort of vast divide with no common engineering language
,and no common parts supply chain
You realise you made that up because I mentioned that in Europe, there is no question about whether to go "IS" or "Solid axle", but a question about which IS is the best. That we actually expect cars to have IS and would balk at something with solid axles - especially at the front?let alone the vast mergers of the last 5-10 years where the companies are literally are part of the same umbrella now.
Apparently I know more than you. You may be able to wrench on a solid axle vehicle, or, as your latest claim: To chauffeur an engineer in a pre-production vehicle". Wooptidoo.But I mean you have picked up Bosh engineers from the airport in a pre-production vehicle to help root cause issues before right? I mean you are just so deep into the auto biz aren't you?
You sure the knowledge isn't rubbing off on you?You are so over your head in this argument.
Sure you have. Just like the "knowledge" that rubbed off on you.
But, please, do tell. Tell me all about those engineers from those companies that think that solid axles are better, and why corporate then want to go with the more expensive IS setup. Why don't you give me a list of cars (currently available) from those companies which comes with solid axles at the front. It has to be a majority, since a solid axle front is cheaper to make.
Nah, that might be too mean. How about you give me a list of 10 currently available cars with solid axle fronts?
I am not naive at all. You have shown yourself to lie and make up ****.
I am saying that solid axle vehicles are much more prevalent in the US than in Europe. US is beginning to make modern suspension designs in general, but it's a standing joke around here that when the mustang finally got independent suspension at the back 5 years ago or so, it was a big deal in the US. Here, we kind of expect supposed sports cars to have that.
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You completely made that up in your head.
You realise you made that up because I mentioned that in Europe, there is no question about whether to go "IS" or "Solid axle", but a question about which IS is the best. That we actually expect cars to have IS and would balk at something with solid axles - especially at the front?
Apparently I know more than you. You may be able to wrench on a solid axle vehicle, or, as your latest claim: To chauffeur an engineer in a pre-production vehicle". Wooptidoo.
You sure the knowledge isn't rubbing off on you?
A fun video since Pilat pretty much is calling me a liar. Enjoy!
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[/QUOTE]LOL, I never called you a liar about you driving a prototype to pick up an engineer. I called you on it, as you seemed to think that chauffeuring an engineer - even in a "prototype" somehow meant that you must be knowledgeable about suspension.
That merely makes you a chauffeur. It says nothing about your engineering chops. Hell, although I don't think you are that low and the pecking list, but some floor sweeper with a driver's license could easily be asked to pick up someone from the airport. "here, take the keys, they're for this new chrysler sedan.".
I really don't care at this point. You driving cars for a living doesn't really prove that you know anything about engineering. You even refuse to acknowledge unsprung mass is a problem, and that having one wheel react when the other is moving is a problem to handling. So please continue to show videos of you driving a car as if that proves anything.
I am also keen on those implied claims that engineers from big car companies prefer solid axles as the better solution, yet somehow gets overridden and independent suspension is chosen even if it's the more expensive design. You driving cars proves absolutely nothing.