4Rescue
Expedition Leader
There's no doubt that the "economy" of a Diesel engine in the USDM doesn't always (often) currently make sense, but regardless of how much advancement petrol engines make (and they have made a lot, although so have Diesel's), there's still a LOT of applications where Diesels are superior... it's just not "cost", and that's what's going to be the bottom line for Toyota as a large scale auto-maker. For me as an individual, I have an infrastructure of sorts built that makes owning/operating a diesel vehicle less costly and I have a need for the engine's power delivery/capability, but the average buyer will not have that kind of ability or need. So, like the 70-series, Toyota really has no reason to try to "reinvent the wheel", (sad as that is for some of us) when they've got a solid, segment leading formula in the Tacoma. Sure I'd love to have a rubber-floored, manual crank window'd, 6-sp manual trans, manual t-case, diesel powered Tacoma with a more robust frame and larger bed load capacity.... But again, it doesn;t make sense for Toyota to try to satisfy my narrow needs when they KNOW they can make a truck that's, in my eyes, more "soft" and sell it to hundreds of thousands of people a year all the same. It sucks, but it's very predictable business...
Whatever Toyota brings out, I look forward to seeing it, but I'm also really glad I'm building my truck vs making car payments on a new truck that may or may not be exactly what I want.
Interesting theory, although Nissan's already confirmed that the new Titan will have a 5.0L Cummins TDV8 so it'd be interesting to see if Toyota would also look to Cummins (As much as I love Toyota's diesels, I think Cummins would be easier and every bit as well made) and how Nissan might feel about that.
That "spy photo" is so made-up that it's tough to tell what it'll look like, but to the poster who put the 2015 Hilux and the spy shot up, well: the rear glass and the door windows all look very similar, and the shape is certainly there... It's merely the cladding that's different and that's all probably fake stuff to throw off the shape anyway. There's a massive industry who's sole job is to "hide" new production cars, and often companies use another, already in production, vehicle over the top of the new chassis/drive-train. At one point Merc was using, I think, a Viper shell with the SLS or maybe the SLR chassis + DT under it and everyone just though it was the most unique sounding Viper ever (although I believe even the exhaust was "disguised" on the early test mules)...
Cheers
Dave
Whatever Toyota brings out, I look forward to seeing it, but I'm also really glad I'm building my truck vs making car payments on a new truck that may or may not be exactly what I want.
Interesting theory, although Nissan's already confirmed that the new Titan will have a 5.0L Cummins TDV8 so it'd be interesting to see if Toyota would also look to Cummins (As much as I love Toyota's diesels, I think Cummins would be easier and every bit as well made) and how Nissan might feel about that.
That "spy photo" is so made-up that it's tough to tell what it'll look like, but to the poster who put the 2015 Hilux and the spy shot up, well: the rear glass and the door windows all look very similar, and the shape is certainly there... It's merely the cladding that's different and that's all probably fake stuff to throw off the shape anyway. There's a massive industry who's sole job is to "hide" new production cars, and often companies use another, already in production, vehicle over the top of the new chassis/drive-train. At one point Merc was using, I think, a Viper shell with the SLS or maybe the SLR chassis + DT under it and everyone just though it was the most unique sounding Viper ever (although I believe even the exhaust was "disguised" on the early test mules)...
Cheers
Dave
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