New Jeep Pick Up to be unveiled...The Gladiator

Buddha.

Finally in expo white.
It probably has a higher payload, it will have more storage space just to bring "more stuff", and slide-in campers and such will finally be an option for the Jeep crowd.

Given it will have the 3.0 eco diesel that should be in the rage of 28+ mpg, I'd say it will be a hit for Overlanding, certainly in North America.

-Dan
Seeing how the diesel option in the 1500 puts payload in the same ballpark as my 2001 corrola I can't see a diesel jeep truck being able to carry a slide in camper.
 

rkj__

Adventurer
So configure a truck for less than $60,000, if the price upsets you. You don't need a big screen dash, worthless fake leather, tail gate step, diesel engine in a little truck, OnStar eye in the sky, or whatever other gimmick is out there. 4wd, CC, rear locker, done. $40,000.

"What, the platinum comes with neato plastic badging for just $10,000 extra!?! Here, take my wallet."

No doubt the Rubicon will be expensive, but it sounds like the Sport will still be targeting the "lifestyle" buyer, and not trying to compete on price with base trim level Colorados, Rangers, and Frontiers.
 

rkj__

Adventurer
Seeing how the diesel option in the 1500 puts payload in the same ballpark as my 2001 corrola I can't see a diesel jeep truck being able to carry a slide in camper.

I really don't understand payload ratings on new half ton trucks. Even the 2019 F150 4x4 with it's lightweight aluminum body can only haul 1,270 lbs in Limited trim. That's an embarrassment, since I'm seeing tons of ads pop up advertising the F150's amazing 3,270 lb payload....
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
Ratings are nonsense to anyone but the DOT guy that pulls you over. My F250 has 3100# payload. My 350, only 2000-ish#. I can't see any way that 3200# in an F150 isn't going to ride and feel terrible.

Depends on the weight of the truck, as well as how it's equipped. It would be a shame if this truck couldn't handle one of the smaller FWC's.
 

Regcabguy

Oil eater.
So configure a truck for less than $60,000, if the price upsets you. You don't need a big screen dash, worthless fake leather, tail gate step, diesel engine in a little truck, OnStar eye in the sky, or whatever other gimmick is out there. 4wd, CC, rear locker, done. $40,000.

"What, the platinum comes with neato plastic badging for just $10,000 extra!?! Here, take my wallet."

Next, is TFL going to complain that buying a truck with right hand drive is a $40,000 option? Or that adding AESA radar is $2.2 mil.
Agreed. The fancy electronics and dash gadgets won't outlast the vehicles out there.
Braking,handling and especially dependability should be the priority. It'll sell though.When I look at the overly complex dashes and AI based features out there I scratch my head. More crap to go wrong down the line.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
In 2018 you can't buy a vehicle without a video game dash board. Our base 2017 Forester (and I mean base, zero options, stick shift) has a video screen and that's because the government mandates vehicles have back up cameras.
 

rkj__

Adventurer
I'm only afraid that the good axles will only be available in a $60k Rubi version. Like the wrangler.

Unlike the wrangler, the pickup will be rated to tow in the neighbourhood of 7,000 lb, so the drivetrain can only be so weak.
 

rkj__

Adventurer
In 2018 you can't buy a vehicle without a video game dash board. Our base 2017 Forester (and I mean base, zero options, stick shift) has a video screen and that's because the government mandates vehicles have back up cameras.

Passenger cars especially are coming very well equipped in base trims. But, the tech has even moved into base pickups, which historically have been more utilitarian. My Base trim Sierra has a 7" touch screen. I would have cringed at that 10 years ago, but honestly, I do like my backup camera, and Apple Car Play. The camera is far better at guiding my tow ball under my trailer hitch than my wife! lol

I might be cringing again though, if the fancy gadgets fail outside of warranty, and cost thousands to replace...
 

Todd n Natalie

OverCamper
I think it will be well above 60.

A Rubicon can get into the mid 50s. A truck will most defintely tip 60s, now consider the diesel upgrade? Your better off with a 2500 for that money.
That's what I'm thinking too. mid 60's?? No thanks. A tacoma trd pro or ZR2 would be 10 - 15 K cheaper. I'm thinking a FX4 Ranger would be 20 k cheaper. Mid 60's here would buy you a Power Wagon or a base level diesel 3/4 ton or 1 ton.
 

Dances with Wolves

aka jk240sx
The #1 warranty issue in Consumer reports is already the "infotainment systems".

That's why i'm glad the screen on my dash is just a radio/nav and the backup cam is in the rearview mirror as god intended. I'd hate to have one that was tied to any of the systems.
 

onemanarmy

Explorer
I really don't understand payload ratings on new half ton trucks. Even the 2019 F150 4x4 with it's lightweight aluminum body can only haul 1,270 lbs in Limited trim. That's an embarrassment, since I'm seeing tons of ads pop up advertising the F150's amazing 3,270 lb payload....
Where are you seeing that high of payload for an F150? That's one ton truck category.

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dstock

Explorer
That's what I'm thinking too. mid 60's?? No thanks. A tacoma trd pro or ZR2 would be 10 - 15 K cheaper. I'm thinking a FX4 Ranger would be 20 k cheaper. Mid 60's here would buy you a Power Wagon or a base level diesel 3/4 ton or 1 ton.

While this may be true, none of the above will have the articulation of solid front and rear axles like on the Wrangler.
 

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