techniq808
New member
Gears...moved from wish list to dream list.
New product from Proud Rhino! The SYA Off Road Extension Kit
- Thread starter Fivespddisco
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Gears...moved from wish list to dream list.
Yup...the more time I put in on the bigger/heavier tires the more I wish I had about 10% more gearing. I think it would even help my highway mileage as I can't stay in full lock-up overdrive on anything but dead flat, no head-wind, speed limit only driving. And the gap between 1-2 is just huge on these trucks, so the steeper gears would let me stay in 2nd a little longer before the dreaded down-shift to first.
Dmarchand
Adventurer
I had this problem for some time. However recently it has gone away. I'm not sure if it is a result of the suspension needing to cycle to get a baseline or what, but my access height works perfectly now with the kit. Maybe some collaboration is needed with the GAP guys who have dug deep in the code.
And the kit has saved me a couple times. Such as a few weeks ago when the dealer did the regular service and damaged a rod on the rear that eventually let go on the highway.
Come on, for only 130 an hour what do you expect 😀
ColoDisco
Explorer
No offense but being a dealer tech you should prove they screwed it up prior to blaming them. That being said, I decided to keep the Johnson rods and not recalibrate just so I had metal instead of plastic rods. Not sure what LR was thinking with the height sensor rods, they look like break away plastic.
I haven't had it over the scales with this tire, but it's approx 7500 lbs w/o people.
I took it to a CAT scale a couple years ago on the way back from a trip. I had my gear aboard, full gas, empty jerry can and water, and I think it was about 7300 lbs. Add 5 gallons of gas and about 3 gallons of water plus the food we'd eaten during the trip, plus maybe 375 lbs for two people, plus the heavier current tires and it's just scary to think about.
morrisdl
Adventurer
SO, whats the latest with these strut spacers? Im coming up on prevent maintenance interval to replace my air struts and thought it might be a good time to incorporate an 'upgrade'.
What size tires are people running with these?
I have adjustable rods and IIDT - Does anyone think I might be able to adjust the rods and calibration to make access mode work?
did the instructions on limit strap routing ever get sorted out?
Why do flat tires with these installed send the EAS into red fault (lowered to bumpstops)? I would think the straps and lowered bump-stops prevent out of range issues.
Thanks for sharing!
What size tires are people running with these?
I have adjustable rods and IIDT - Does anyone think I might be able to adjust the rods and calibration to make access mode work?
did the instructions on limit strap routing ever get sorted out?
Why do flat tires with these installed send the EAS into red fault (lowered to bumpstops)? I would think the straps and lowered bump-stops prevent out of range issues.
Thanks for sharing!
I haven't messed with this system in a while or heard anything new about the limit strap routing. There could be news, I just haven't been paying any attention.
I suspect you may be able to make the system work with some fiddling, I just haven't had the urge to get back into it. I've actually been thinking more about doing my own version with less height. Maybe an inch.
It's not flat tires that cause the EAS fault with rods, it's a deflated strut. If you have rods and end up on the bumpstops without the spacers you can push a sensor out of range which will cause the EAS to go red. In that case you need to either use the GAP tool to manually inflate the offending corner a bit to get back in range or use a jack/etc to lift it a bit until the computer will take over again. In theory with the spacer kit you shouldn't have that issue though I've not actually tested this.
I suspect you may be able to make the system work with some fiddling, I just haven't had the urge to get back into it. I've actually been thinking more about doing my own version with less height. Maybe an inch.
It's not flat tires that cause the EAS fault with rods, it's a deflated strut. If you have rods and end up on the bumpstops without the spacers you can push a sensor out of range which will cause the EAS to go red. In that case you need to either use the GAP tool to manually inflate the offending corner a bit to get back in range or use a jack/etc to lift it a bit until the computer will take over again. In theory with the spacer kit you shouldn't have that issue though I've not actually tested this.
Fivespddisco
Supporting Sponsor
This kit stops the tires from stuffing into the wheel wells by extending the bump stops. The downside is the access mode sometimes does not work. We have had luck adjusting the height sensors with the gap tool to allow access mode with lift rods and SYA kit. At this point that's all we have. Please keep in mind that we're tricking the computer into doing things that we want by putting lift rods on it. Then we're trying to use this spacer kit to compensate for the larger tires.
If access mode is a must we suggest you get the gap tool deflate the air system to the height you need and then lock the suspension.
JackAttack13
Observer
Ok, so after spending about an hour reading a majority of this thread, I have not seen any true resolve to the limit straps. What was the exact issue? Is this resolved? I never use access height as I have no need, is that the only real issue? I am always scared while out wheeling that something will happen and I will be on the stops.
Also, I feel like their would be minimal suspension performance since the air strut would be adjusting the height accordingly. If I understand correctly, wouldn't the shock ride better with less air in it rather than fully inflated with the rods constantly? I can understand a traditional shock being effected, and losing downtravel with your A-Arms hitting the bump stops sooner, but this does not seem to be the case with the EAS am I correct?
Also, I feel like their would be minimal suspension performance since the air strut would be adjusting the height accordingly. If I understand correctly, wouldn't the shock ride better with less air in it rather than fully inflated with the rods constantly? I can understand a traditional shock being effected, and losing downtravel with your A-Arms hitting the bump stops sooner, but this does not seem to be the case with the EAS am I correct?
Got it thanks. I got an iid tool from you guys a while ago so I could go that route if access mode was needed.
Fivespddisco
Supporting Sponsor
What is the issue with the Straps?
They are there to prevent the CV from having to angle. At full flex with the spacers your CVs will bind and this will lead to failure.
JackAttack13
Observer
There were a few people saying the rear straps were rubbing or routed in a way that caused issues. I understand the need for them, I was just curious about other peoples concerns that didn't seem to get anywhere. Also, all of the concerns about the access height which I never use due to the larger tires anyways. If you have not experienced any issues with the straps this might be right up my alley as to what I am looking for.
You personally have a ton more experience in these rigs then I do, and am looking for some insurance while out on the trail. My only other option I am looking into is to do a race style coilover, from Radflo, with custom top mounts to gain more performance than the traditional coil conversion kits with OME springs offer. Have you seen anyone install performance coilovers?