"New Technology Rage/Hate/Praise Thread"

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
Just to be clear, I’m not anti airbags. I’m anti not having a choice about it. Great option or forced expense?
You can buy something old if you don't want safety. Or, if you're lucky, you can register an UTV in your state to make it road legal. Or you can buy something like a Morgan Plus Six - those don't have airbags either. They're not cheap either, though.
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
I think that is why we are seeing used vehicle prices climb. More and more people are choosing to go that route.
The driver experience has improved with newer vehicles, but in many instances the quality of components has not. For overlanding, I’d assume we’d value simplicity and reliability, followed by comfort and convenience. For running to the store, I’ll take the wife’s caravan with remote start, heated seats and a power liftgate. In that application, it doesn’t matter if it breaks. I’m in civilization so I can get a tow truck....or ride a bicycle home without headlights.
Your posts lead me to believe you aren’t all that familiar with some of the things I complain about.
I have both a 1990 W350 and a 2017 Ram 2500....and some others.

No, I'm not that experienced with Cummins. I'm not American. and Cummins is very much a US company with most of its sales there. And although I like the sound of huge engines, they're not really efficient in any way, so outside of the US, those things aren't actually that widespread.
So, I do know a lot about diesels, but not Cummins specifically..
 

plumber mike

Adventurer
No, I'm not that experienced with Cummins. I'm not American. and Cummins is very much a US company with most of its sales there. And although I like the sound of huge engines, they're not really efficient in any way, so outside of the US, those things aren't actually that widespread.
So, I do know a lot about diesels, but not Cummins specifically..
Ok. The non American part helps. Thanks. I’ve found the Cummins incredibly efficient as compared to the other options we have available.
 
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Deleted member 9101

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Nobody is going to rant about a computer overriding driver input? Geez. I think the computer can waste brakes faster than I can.....especially when its snowy and slick.
I like the interior comfort of new better, but all the other stuff I have to get that I don’t want really kills it for me. $ for $ I think the older stuff is better and cheaper. The aftermarket has solved all the issues I’ve had with older vehicles, and the newer ones just keep creating them.


Yeah... The piss poor safety rating of an older vehicle is enough to keep my family out of them.
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
The clue was there as lowercase "v" in "Cummins 12v".
Proper use of SI symbols requires anything named for a person. Examples, Volta, Ampere, Watt, Pascal, et.al...
If used as abbreviation shall be upper case. If its two letter abbreviation, its first letter is uppercase, "Hz" for example.
If mixed, "kWh" for example, only the letter relating to the guys name is uppercase.
This is something every legitimate 'ExPo Guy recognises and complies without fail.
Yeah, because people always adhere to that. So of course, it should be obvious when someone doesn't use a capital V for volts.
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
Ok. The non American part helps. Thanks. I’ve found the Cummins incredibly efficient as compared to the other options we have available.
You still didn't answer the question: What year is your Cummins 6.7L? The 2017?
 
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plumber mike

Adventurer
You can buy something old if you don't want safety. Or, if you're lucky, you can register an UTV in your state to make it road legal. Or you can buy something like a Morgan Plus Six - those don't have airbags either. They're not cheap either, though.
The Mahindra Roxor has hit the streets here. It’s cheap and simple and available brand new.

Yeah... The piss poor safety rating of an older vehicle is enough to keep my family out of them.
My family has survived in both old and new vehicles. I don’t think that makes either of us right or wrong. We also have motorcycles that generally have poor crash test ratings.
You still didn't answer the question: What year is your Cummins 6.7L? The 2017?
Sorry. I thought I did. The 6.7 is in a 2017 Ram 2500
 

85_Ranger4x4

Well-known member
Leds aren't only used in blinkers, but stop/tail lights as well as position lights and headlights.
If your car can't cope with the blinkers being LED, it's a simply fix of adding inline load resistors. You don't need to do that on most modern cars, though.

Yeah but when your main thing is to reduce draw on the system adding resistors kinda defeats the point.

I tried them in the marker lights (same bulb as license plate lights) and they were too bright, kinda washed out the amber and almost made them white

Yeah, because people always adhere to that. So of course, it should be obvious when someone doesn't use a capital V for volts.

V also counts for barrels in carb land. 2V for 2 barrel, 4V for 4 barrel etc.
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
The Mahindra Roxor has hit the streets here. It’s cheap and simple and available brand new.
Yes, that too.

My family has survived in both old and new vehicles. I don’t think that makes either of us right or wrong. We also have motorcycles that generally have poor crash test ratings.
That's called survivor bias or survival bias. It's a fallacy. Just because the people that are now here are here, then dangerous stuff from the past can't possibly have been dangerous.

Didn't Jeep already take Mahindra to court about that one?

Sorry. I thought I did. The 6.7 is in a 2017 Ram 2500
Oh, okay. Is the injectors mechanical or electronic? Not trying to start a fight, I'm genuinely curious as when I search on it, it seems to be electronic on some - or perhaps that's aftermarket upgrades.
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
Yeah but when your main thing is to reduce draw on the system adding resistors kinda defeats the point.
Not really, as the blinkers doesn't really use much electricity even if incandescent. The point of having leds as blinkers is that they're brighter and they last a lot longer than incandescent bulbs and are a lot hardier/more rugged.

I tried them in the marker lights (same bulb as license plate lights) and they were too bright, kinda washed out the amber and almost made them white
Depends on the LED and the lens. It's best when they're a complete design - mostly because LEDs are much more directional than an incandescent bulb.

V also counts for barrels in carb land. 2V for 2 barrel, 4V for 4 barrel etc.
Yes, V can be for a lot of things!
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
Lucky you !
Seems you are a legitimate 'ExPo Guy afterall.
SI abbreviation for liter can be expressed three ways. Uppercase or lowercase "L", "l", a Highbrow Professor type will may use "ℓ" just to be different.

You realise you're trying to explain something I know, merely based on the fact that I wasn't sure if he meant the electrical system when he mentioned "12v", right?

You also quoted the wrong message.
 
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Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
Also easy and inexpensive to mould into crazy shapes that bulbs would never work in.
Thats also inexpensive way to distinguish excellence of this model year from the hideous piece-o-crap last years model what one should be ashamed of and trade in for new.
Take a look at the german STVZO bike (as in bicycle) lights. They never shine the LED directly outwards. They use the indirect method of shaping the beam with a reflector in order to reduce glare. And that's for bike lights. But it illustrates that you can't really merely replace the incandescent bulb for a LED and expect good results. It has to be designed properly. It also opens up a whole lot of options.
 

plumber mike

Adventurer
Yes, that too.


That's called survivor bias or survival bias. It's a fallacy. Just because the people that are now here are here, then dangerous stuff from the past can't possibly have been dangerous.

Didn't Jeep already take Mahindra to court about that one?


Oh, okay. Is the injectors mechanical or electronic? Not trying to start a fight, I'm genuinely curious as when I search on it, it seems to be electronic on some - or perhaps that's aftermarket upgrades.
I’m not saying what is or isn’t dangerous. I feel each individual should have a choice though.

Yes....it’ll be interesting to see how things pan out with Mahindra and Fiat.

The 6.7 uses a computer to control just about everything including the injectors timing.
 

Pilat

Tossing ewoks on Titan
Yup, that's what I thought. Most modern engines do. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

But you do have a choice. You can buy really expensive cars where auto braking, airbags and so on are options, or you can buy old cars and restomod them. My dream restomod is an Alfaholics GTA-R. Really nice.
In practice, though, my next small car will probably be a Honda E if and when it becomes available here.
 
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Deleted member 9101

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My family has survived in both old and new vehicles. I don’t think that makes either of us right or wrong.

I'm pretty sure that my two+ decades of working accidents makes me right, in this instance...lol. New vehicles are exponentially safer than older ones. Even a 10 year difference in age can make a drastic difference in survivability.
 

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