DirtWhiskey
Western Dirt Rat
40k is the new 20k bruv. Get used to it.
New to campers and surprised by the high prices. How come a camper is half the cost of a car?
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40k is the new 20k bruv. Get used to it.
ramblinChet
Well-known member
You must have fallen asleep during that lesson in class entitled "economy of scale." Go back and read it for your answer.
calicamper
Expedition Leader
That and labor cost. RVs are basically hand built. Cars not so much
Porkchopexpress
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Photobug
Well-known member
Its an S2 7.9. Waiting for a slip on that lake. Bear Lake Utah.
I also have a Pottter 19 on a buoy locally. Considering a larger boat so I can travel the coast, start in British Columbia and work my way down the coast, I already have my retirement home.
Photobug
Well-known member
Not an option on all coasts.
calicamper
Expedition Leader
Yeah not the same my Ford Pass doesn’t have a water front facility I can use or run a Jrs program for my kids. LOLAnd my F350 was basically free as part of my subscription to Ford Pass.
MM4Overland
Member
Sorry my salary does not reflect that.
So that motto works for gullible, naives and vendors. Which one are you?
To the economy at scale fans, you need to go to school.... the price of the cars did not double up and neither the salaries of the trades involved in bulding these campers...but their prices did.
calicamper
Expedition Leader
My ranger new in 89 was $9000. Comparable XLT ranger today is about 24k. Last I ran numbers thats over double. ?
ramblinChet
Well-known member
Looks like you missed that class also...you are attempting to relate economy of scale and inflation. Those are unrelated. What you are unexpectedly discovering is that our fiat currency is becoming worth less and less since we broke away from the gold standard which began in 1933 and concluded in 1973. I bet you attended a public
DirtWhiskey
Western Dirt Rat
Then, by jolley, YOU GO BUILD IT FOR LESS. And don't forget to value your TIME, which is the most expensive component of a custom product. If you can do a nice camper for less than 40k (we all know they aren't 20k any more except for you), including your time, you got yourself a real deal. And if it's less, then you are undervaluing your time. I don't do anything for less than $100 per hour. Time, opportunity costs, brain damage, the number should be twice that.
MM4Overland
Member
I am in no rush to buy or build, I can wait for the economy to go down because some ppl spent more tha they can make on houses campers and whatever. Till then I am taking advantage of a booming stock market. I think my small portfolio went up about the price of a camper in like 6 months. THAT is the samrt way to buy a camper. Just calculate the ROI for 40K at a modest 8% ROI...you can pay for the camper if you get a loan for it, I hear some of these small companies can get you financing for like 10 20 years
Mickey Bitsko
Adventurer
This thread is 99% opinion. What goes up will most surely come down.
Be patient.. another crash is coming, the Fed's are wringing their hands now.
This is NOT my opinion.
Be patient.. another crash is coming, the Fed's are wringing their hands now.
This is NOT my opinion.
If (the over-financialized sector of) the economy crashes, volume produced of these physical products may plummet
quality may suffer, top shelf unavailable
but does not mean prices overall will decline much.
The long term trend for 50 years now is the decline of disposable income / purchasing power of those working for a living.
The increasing share of the top few percent rentier class continues to skyrocket, more and more all the income and wealth concentrating at the top.
There is zero evidence of that trend doing anything but accelerating more and more every year.
The saving grace for ordinary people has been so many goods prices staying cheap due to their being made overseas, or otherwise produced using very cheap exploited labor.
Which is less true for manufactured goods using the labor of US citizens.
quality may suffer, top shelf unavailable
but does not mean prices overall will decline much.
The long term trend for 50 years now is the decline of disposable income / purchasing power of those working for a living.
The increasing share of the top few percent rentier class continues to skyrocket, more and more all the income and wealth concentrating at the top.
There is zero evidence of that trend doing anything but accelerating more and more every year.
The saving grace for ordinary people has been so many goods prices staying cheap due to their being made overseas, or otherwise produced using very cheap exploited labor.
Which is less true for manufactured goods using the labor of US citizens.
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tacollie
Glamper
It's funny you think campers are over priced but not Tacomas. My Tacoma I bought new in 2002 was $19,500. That truck is $40,000 today. So I guess $40k is the new $20k. Campers and Tacomas aren't going to go back to previous prices. If it does I'm buying more rental properties not a slide in camper.