off road light housing

Buddha.

Finally in expo white.
Call the dead center of your light source "the horizon".
Find a level surface and wall, 25 feet distance, aim your headlight cut-off about 2.5" below its horizon and your foglight about 4" below its horizon. That should work with your lift height.
You can tweak both from there ---- what kind of headlights are you running? Maybe we can improve them too. That's usually the first way to go.

Scott F on this forum has a Grand Cherokee diesel that comes stock with 9005/9006 hi/low beams. Those lamps can legally fit HIR 1&2 bulbs in for a very significant upgrade. He did that and also ran a relayed bypass harness directly to his battery. The results were astounding; the LUX at all of my measurement points exceeded anything I had previously tested, including most stock HID systems.
Of course you need a nice clear lens for that. Many OE lenses get milky from debris and UV exposure.

My Blazer uses the 9005/9006 bulb too. Last week I installed the HIR 1&2 bulbs. I haven't driven at night since then so i dont have a review but the install was easy enough.
 

punisher1130

Adventurer
Call the dead center of your light source "the horizon".
Find a level surface and wall, 25 feet distance, aim your headlight cut-off about 2.5" below its horizon and your foglight about 4" below its horizon. That should work with your lift height.
You can tweak both from there ---- what kind of headlights are you running? Maybe we can improve them too. That's usually the first way to go.

Scott F on this forum has a Grand Cherokee diesel that comes stock with 9005/9006 hi/low beams. Those lamps can legally fit HIR 1&2 bulbs in for a very significant upgrade. He did that and also ran a relayed bypass harness directly to his battery. The results were astounding; the LUX at all of my measurement points exceeded anything I had previously tested, including most stock HID systems.
Of course you need a nice clear lens for that. Many OE lenses get milky from debris and UV exposure.

That could work, I will keep that in mind, at the moment I have stock lights that are milked over but I will be getting projector housings so I can use HID's.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
That could work, I will keep that in mind, at the moment I have stock lights that are milked over but I will be getting projector housings so I can use HID's.
Unless those HIDs are a direct fit from the OE, they're likely not quality and/or legal...
Do you have a link to the product?
Some trucks have an HID or upgrade option and you can buy the OE upgrades or find them at a pick-a-part.

Here's a dedicated vehicle lighting forum, btw: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?87-Automotive
Professionals in the field can help you with serious inquiries. Be warned though ---- they don't tolerate any talk about illegal modifications and will close a thread immediately if it drifts that way. It's a liability thing that I agree with...
 

thethePete

Explorer
Hilldweller, what's your thoughts on the retrofit source and the like, or the practise of retrofitting proper hid projectors into your housing?

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Buddha.

Finally in expo white.
That could work, I will keep that in mind, at the moment I have stock lights that are milked over but I will be getting projector housings so I can use HID's.

A 3m light restorer kit and a couple hours will take care of those lights.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
Hilldweller, what's your thoughts on the retrofit source and the like, or the practise of retrofitting proper hid projectors into your housing?
It's not legal to do ----- I think that's what began Kojack's aberrant behavior, in fact. He was a member of Civic forums and routinely put HID projectors in the stock housings. People on those forums are aware of "stupid government regulations" that prohibit the practice ---- Daniel Stern has a website with FAQs about it, I'm a friend of Stern, ergo I'm evil....
Once you chop apart an OE housing it is no longer compliant with FMVSS-108. There's no acceptable way to "retrofit" something in that way...

If you had a vehicle that came with replaceable round or rectangular lights like the Jeep does, it's easy to find a good complete lamp to fit. Not so with the molded OE lamps though. Best you can do is buy the OE lamp and put in the best bulbs you can find. A bypass harness will milk the bulbs for all they're worth too.


A 3m light restorer kit and a couple hours will take care of those lights.
Those kits don't provide long-term solutions. They rub off the hardcoat and will degrade even faster the next time. Eventually the plastic will get brittle too.


Here's Stern's site: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
 

thethePete

Explorer
Yep, and although there are plenty of well-done projector conversions, there are equally as many bad ones. And I can't really think of any safety device that can be legally modified anyway. Last I checked, lights are a safety device.
 

punisher1130

Adventurer
Unless those HIDs are a direct fit from the OE, they're likely not quality and/or legal...
Do you have a link to the product?
Some trucks have an HID or upgrade option and you can buy the OE upgrades or find them at a pick-a-part.

Here's a dedicated vehicle lighting forum, btw: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?87-Automotive
Professionals in the field can help you with serious inquiries. Be warned though ---- they don't tolerate any talk about illegal modifications and will close a thread immediately if it drifts that way. It's a liability thing that I agree with...

The housings I am looking at are direct OEM upgrade replacement for the factory set. They are halo projector housings designed to directly replace the factory housing as well as the signal housings making the headlights and signals 1 big housing. These are the headlights>>> http://www.amazon.com/Spyder-Auto-P...oliid=I2ZO0NE1EYWQWN&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl
I even found the matching fog lights.
 

Robert Bills

Explorer
The housings I am looking at are direct OEM upgrade replacement for the factory set. They are halo projector housings designed to directly replace the factory housing as well as the signal housings making the headlights and signals 1 big housing. These are the headlights>>> http://www.amazon.com/Spyder-Auto-P...oliid=I2ZO0NE1EYWQWN&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl
I even found the matching fog lights.

Those lights are not OEM. The product description is hyperbole and intentionally misleading. "OE approved" does not mean OEM or that the manufacturer of your truck has approved them as optional equipment. Caveat emptor.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
It's not legal to do ----- I think that's what began Kojack's aberrant behavior, in fact. He was a member of Civic forums and routinely put HID projectors in the stock housings. People on those forums are aware of "stupid government regulations" that prohibit the practice ---- Daniel Stern has a website with FAQs about it, I'm a friend of Stern, ergo I'm evil....
Once you chop apart an OE housing it is no longer compliant with FMVSS-108. There's no acceptable way to "retrofit" something in that way...

If you had a vehicle that came with replaceable round or rectangular lights like the Jeep does, it's easy to find a good complete lamp to fit. Not so with the molded OE lamps though. Best you can do is buy the OE lamp and put in the best bulbs you can find. A bypass harness will milk the bulbs for all they're worth too.


Those kits don't provide long-term solutions. They rub off the hardcoat and will degrade even faster the next time. Eventually the plastic will get brittle too.


Here's Stern's site: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

I was not a member of CIVC sites like you mention there expert. Just saying. I tried the hid in factory housing thing, in my jeep, and mazda 5. In the 5, where it had projectors, and actually had the option of HID, they worked really well. In the jeep, they came out 3 days after I installed them. IT was garbage. The fact that stern has little cronies going around spouting crap, is the reason I don't like the whole danielsternlighting. Again, I will stand by my position that in certain housings HID systems work fine. I am not in the DS/crazy camp that says EVERY HID retrofit is not usefull and absolute garbage...because its not true, accurate or factual!

Just as is putting HID into anything is going to get you better, brighter light...because that's not factual either.
 

punisher1130

Adventurer
Those lights are not OEM. The product description is hyperbole and intentionally misleading. "OE approved" does not mean OEM or that the manufacturer of your truck has approved them as optional equipment. Caveat emptor.

Damn your right, I totally miss read that, thanks for the catch ill start my search up again, but that is the style I would like to get my hands on. I like that ''eye'' look with the halo's, will go good with dodge's angry sound.
 

thethePete

Explorer
^ You won't find a DOT approved aftermarket housing, most likely. Many, many people run those aftermarket housings, so you could do it, but know that it's technically illegal.
 

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