Photoshop moving to cloud/subscription service only.

nwoods

Expedition Leader
Well, as someone who roll's his own code, having someone else do it probably is not very appealing, but a few years ago my firm had a custom application for ACDSee and the company engineers did the mod's for us. They did it for free, but we did buy a slew of licenses :)
 

graynomad

Photographer, traveller
So after all this and with me saying I want to get away from Adobe I decided to revisit LightRoom and downloaded all 800Meg of the LR5 program, only to find it doesn't run on Vista, you need W7 or 8. :mad:

Upgrading is a good excuse to start afresh and clear out all the crap that accumulates on your computer over the years, but do I really want that pain, and will my hardware support W8 anyway. Should I try LR4 instead, but 5 has some nice features.

Damn computers, maybe I should set up a darkroom again and forget digital :)

but we did buy a slew of licenses :)
Yeah, I can't see them doing it for me.
 

Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
I think Adobe did the right thing by revisiting their pricing and creating a fair value subscription price for photographers, but now they face huge security issues, and an admitted 38 million users data and credit cards have been compromised. This breach really undermines the confidence of some users, including myself, and honestly, I don't trust Adobe to retain my info for subscription purposes.
 

nwoods

Expedition Leader
Upgrading is a good excuse to start afresh and clear out all the crap that accumulates on your computer over the years, but do I really want that pain, and will my hardware support W8 anyway. Should I try LR4 instead, but 5 has some nice features.

FWIW, Windows 7 is really quite good. SIGNIFICANTLY better than Vista. Window's 8 is total crap, but Win7 is great. Probably 75% of my PC experience day to day is in Win7.... I run it in Parallels on my Mac :)
 

nwoods

Expedition Leader
... but now they face huge security issues, and an admitted 38 million users data and credit cards have been compromised.

Holy cow, I didn't know about that, so looked it up:
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-breach-impacted-at-least-38-million-users/

This is not good. The article states that Adobe admitted to 3 millions users, then 38 million, but it might be more like 150 million users ID and credit card info?

But just this past weekend, AnonNews.org posted a huge file called “users.tar.gz” that appears to include more than 150 million username and hashed password pairs taken from Adobe. The 3.8 GB file looks to be the same one Hold Security CISO Alex Holden and I found on the server with the other data stolen from Adobe.

I thought this was particularly interesting. Not sure the cure is worse that the cold?

As many readers have pointed out in comments on previous KrebsOnSecurity posts, Adobe has offered a year's worth of credit monitoring to customers whose encrypted credit card data was stolen in the breach. As it happens, Adobe's offering comes through Experian, one of the three major credit bureaus and a company that is still reeling from a security breach in which the company was tricked into selling consumer records directly to an online identity theft service.
 

graynomad

Photographer, traveller
Is it any wonder I don't like having anything to do with the "cloud". That said my CC details are on several sites, a bloke really should get a sacrificial card just for web use.
 

cowboy4x4

Explorer
I had windows 7 32 bit and LR4 has to have 64 bit...... sooooo I figured time for a total upgrade. I bought a new laptop 64 bit Windows 8, bought LR4 and used it with my old Canon rebel worked fine.... Then It was time to get a new camera... here is where the problem started.... I bought a Canon 70D and started shooting away (in RAW) went to download my pics and come to find out LR4 will not open the new Canon 70D raw files... I now have to upgrade to LR5.... the bummer is I bought LR4 two weeks before LR5 was released. I have contacted Adobe about a free upgrade to LR5 it is pending as of today.
 

photo_i

Explorer
Just the idea of being constantly connected to reliable and fast Internet is kinda strange to me as a traveler. :)
 

graynomad

Photographer, traveller
Yeah, it's not even possible but the geniuses at Adobe don't give a rat's about those of us with less than reliable connections. You can buy a licence for one year which would help but it still checks every 90 days, why?

@cowboy, I feel your pain :)
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Adobe just announced that anyone can have access to the Creative Cloud versions of Photoshop and Lightroom for $10 a month. The two programs are bundled in the Adobe Photoshop Photography Program, along with 20 gigabytes of online storage and a Behance Prosite (a web page to display your work).

Previously, participation in the PPP required that you already own a copy of Photoshop CS3 or newer. The new offer removes this requirement.

The offer requires an annual commitment. The $10 will be charged to a credit card monthly. Adobe says the $10 price will be good for the foreseeable future.

Here's the catch: You have to sign up for the offer by December 2. After that the Adobe Photoshop Photography Program requirement that you own a copy of Photoshop CS3 or newer will be re-instated.

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2013/1...ographers-photoshop-lightroom-for-9-99mo.html
 

graynomad

Photographer, traveller
Thanks for the heads up, at that price I'm almost tempted I have to say.

I know LR5 doesn't run on Vista, do you know about the latest PS?
 
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Wandering Sagebrush

Guest
I'm late to the party here... I use PS CS6, and will probably stay at this feature level unless I discover a significant bug, or Adobe comes out with must have functionality. I think that PS Elements covers most of the editing that I do, albeit not as easily, so that's an option. Lightroom and Aperture are other options.
 

graynomad

Photographer, traveller
unless I discover a significant bug
Unlikely, I've been using PS since maybe V2 or 3, never seen a bug.

or Adobe comes out with must have functionality
Also unlikely I think, PS already does 100x more than a photographer needs.

LR5 doesn't work on Vista and as far as I can see LR is ok for general fixing of brightness, spots etc but not even close to PS for fine tuning an image. I've not tried Elements, as I only use maybe 3% of PS features maybe that would work, as long as it supports the features I do use.
 

Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
LR5 doesn't work on Vista and as far as I can see LR is ok for general fixing of brightness, spots etc but not even close to PS for fine tuning an image. I've not tried Elements, as I only use maybe 3% of PS features maybe that would work, as long as it supports the features I do use.

Lightroom is extremely powerful, and can do more than most photographers actually need or use. It's much more than just a basic editor. In fact, unless you need to create pixels from scratch, there's not much Lightroom can't do. Not a single image on my website has seen photoshop, yet probably 99% were processed in Lightroom, the rare one may have gone through capture one.
 

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