Bongo Boy said:
Opinion.
Folks put some pretty weird stuff on their rigs, and I'm not excluding myself from that group. Stuff that looks great, and conveys the image of 'overland' or 'expedition' or whatever.
But your own personal experience, limited or otherwise, needs to come into play when outfitting a rig. Now, my experience is extremely limited. Compared to other members here who have travelled thousands of miles into remote areas of the world, I know exactly jack squat.
But...this is the internet, and I have an opinion. Many opinions, actually.
The TJ is a little, tiny vehicle with a fairly low fuel capacity relative to fuel consumption. Uh, I think that means 'short range'. It don't go too far. So, you can put a $1,000 fuel tank in to increase range by about 25% or so, or you can hang IEDs off the back (jerry cans) to get about the same increase. Ugly, but effective, I guess.
But to me, outfitting the TJ for expedition has got to be a real art, and what I don't see is much artistry. I see cargo trays up on the top--with never any means of accessing that tray by any means I can imagine. I see all kinds of crap loaded out on the back--but no comments about how much those racks vibrate on trail, nor any comment about how long those racks last under those conditions.
I see a lot of 'display' gear. As a person in above-average fitness but over 50 years old--have you ever tried to get an 85 lb spare tire down off the top of a vehicle? Have you actually DONE this? I'm almost one year out now from a finger injury from getting my spare off the back of the rig...not even off the top. The finger still hurts!
I'm ramlbing and don't know how to recover. I see a lot of crap on TJs, and to me it doesn't seem well thought out, very efficient, nor very practical. It looks good, but that's about it. I think it's a tough rig to make into much more than a short range plaything, and I'd be very, very interested in the views of folks who feel they've succeeded in making it more than that. I love my TJ Rubicon, but its limited space has to be used very efficiently, and I don't want to unload 1000 lbs of crap to get to my toolbox, if you get my meaning.
I think, in general, the Wrangler community may spend more time selecting D-ring color than figuring out what's needed to repair a tire. Bringing the discipline and pain of expedition to the short-wheelbase community may be quite a learning experience for everyone.
Bongo Boy,
I agree with some of your comments, however opinions are like *&^holes, everyone has one, so here is mine.
TJ's are probably not the best for hauling lot's of gear, and are probably not the best for travelling 1000's of miles over rough terrain (Damn my back hurts). That being said, some of us just love our TJ's and have always wanted one, so we work with what we have. Along with that, an expedition is an exploration of place not well traveled or new to you, it may be an overnight stay, or a 6 month journey, depends on the traveler.
Since each of us is building their jeep for their own adventure/expedition, each may build it to suite their own individual needs.
As far as my TJ buld, it is for exploring little traveled areas of all parts of the country, from Maine to Florida, to So Cal to Alaska. It will be towed behind an RV. We will be living fulltime in our RV for several years, so space in and out of the TJ will have to be maximized, so using a trailer will be out.
All that being said, here is how my jeep build was planned. Understanding we travel by ourselves most of the time.
New front bumper to hold the winch. and maximize approch angle.
Winch to ge us out of a situation we may have accidently got ourselves into.
Rocker guards to help protect the, well, rockers.
Nerf bars, first, so Sheryl can get in the TJ and second, when the roof rack go on, it provides a platform to access it from both sides. The nerf bars have also help mr to piviot around really tight turnsby placing the bar againstthe dirt/rock inside turn.
Lift and larger tires for extra clearance.
New rear bumper designed for better departure angle and higher reciever hitch placement. New tire carrier attached to the bumper to allow for carring of the larger tire (stock tailgate carrier not strong enough) along with 2 jerry can holders placed between the tire and the body and encased in a steel cage for strengh and safety. Jerry cans for extened mileage, but the holder may also be used for water cans or cargo (universal design), cans are mounted low for center of gravity and ease of removel and placement when full. Hi Lift jack mounted to the inside of the carrier, above the jerry cans for ease of access. (hate seeing a hi lift in burried in the mud or dirt when mounted to the bumper.
Raised inside rear floor (5") allows for tools to be carried under the floor, as well as extra oil and fluids.
Recovery gear is carried in a soft bag behind one of the seats
First aid kit stowed under the drivers seat (easy to tell people in an emergency where it is).
Storage boxes inside in a 2 tier system, set up for our needs and accessability.
Portable air compressor and tire repair kit incase of flats on the trail and to air up the inflatable matress and or other uses we haven't thought of yet.
Roof rack will be added in the future to carry the Kayaks and light items, while being towed behind the RV and for getting them to the water.
Well those are my mods and the reason behind each of them, they are not for show or to inpress anyone, each serves a purpose for our needs.
Long winded, yes, wrong thread maybe, but just had to comment on the post, and explain the reasons behind some of our mods.