Project "Autonomous" F-350

pappawheely

Autonomous4X4
I was scrolling through and saw the pic of the shower. At first I was all like "WOW, Pappa has put the coolest shower in his camper!!! He must really like bathing!!" Then I read the caption and I was disappointed.

My shower stall will be a curtain.
 

underdrive

jackwagon
100% silicone caulking works great and if you ever wish to remove the foam it comes undone pretty readily.

Excellent idea, never thought of using a sealer as adhesive. Should work well, and we even have no less than 6 tubes of that stuff laying around leftover from a different project.
 

rayra

Expedition Leader
Works great, especially for stuff like custom consoles, headlines, places with no stresses or that you might want to change up later.


/and I could do a custom shower in a uhaul box. heh.
 

pappawheely

Autonomous4X4
Works great, especially for stuff like custom consoles, headlines, places with no stresses or that you might want to change up later.


/and I could do a custom shower in a uhaul box. heh.

My goal is to keep the back of the box as open as possible. It will only have one wall separating the bed from the rest of the space. The bed hangs over into the box area so much of my stuff will be mounted in the space underneath and slide out when needed. The kitchen will slide out, the toilet will slide out and the shower will just have a pan mounted to the floor and a curtain when in use. It will keep the weight between the axles and down low. I am going to look at the TW200 I am buying this morning. It will go inside the box too and as far forward as possible to center the weight over the rear axle. I am going to take advantage of the uhaul ramp to load and unload the bike. Hopefully this week I can make some headway on the box interior. I'm finding out that the on demand water heater I bought is an outdoor model so I have to figure out a safe way to mount and exhaust it. I may need to build a compartment vented to the outside to house it.
 

java

Expedition Leader
My goal is to keep the back of the box as open as possible. It will only have one wall separating the bed from the rest of the space. The bed hangs over into the box area so much of my stuff will be mounted in the space underneath and slide out when needed. The kitchen will slide out, the toilet will slide out and the shower will just have a pan mounted to the floor and a curtain when in use. It will keep the weight between the axles and down low. I am going to look at the TW200 I am buying this morning. It will go inside the box too and as far forward as possible to center the weight over the rear axle. I am going to take advantage of the uhaul ramp to load and unload the bike. Hopefully this week I can make some headway on the box interior. I'm finding out that the on demand water heater I bought is an outdoor model so I have to figure out a safe way to mount and exhaust it. I may need to build a compartment vented to the outside to house it.

Eccotemp water heater? Someone in one of the trailer builds used a box that almost looked like a undermount truck box and recessed it halfway into the wall, 8-10" ish deep box. Get to camp, open the door on the outside and good to go. Was pretty slick.
 

pappawheely

Autonomous4X4
Eccotemp water heater? Someone in one of the trailer builds used a box that almost looked like a undermount truck box and recessed it halfway into the wall, 8-10" ish deep box. Get to camp, open the door on the outside and good to go. Was pretty slick.

That's what I am thinking. Does anyone know if propane is heavier or lighter than air? I would like to vent it out the side as opposed to through the roof.
 
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java

Expedition Leader
That's what I am thinking. Does anyone know if propane is heavier or lighter than air? I would like to vent it out the side as opposed to through the roof.

Heavier I believe. But the eccotemp needs to vent the heat out the top.
 

pappawheely

Autonomous4X4
Just wondering if I should slant the bottom of the box in case there is a propane leak at the fittings. Overthinking like usual.
 

MaverickTRD

Adventurer
great looking build! I love the OBS fords. and i'll shamingly admit, that while seeing your sig pic numerous times i never actually checked out your build until today. Do you take your colorado out very often? Are you in Phoenix much? There's a few of us that head out to Sycamore and Geiser loop occasionally with our prerunners as well. Only ever seen one colorado built up in person (and it was a canyon) but was interesting for sure.

Keep up the good work! i'm stoked to see that box on your chassis when the time comes
 

rayra

Expedition Leader
Propane's heavier, most combustible petroleum based gasses are. But it isn't propane you need to worry about, it's gone an additive in it so you'll smell it. It's the combustion byproduct carbon monoxide that doesn't smell, is also heavier than air and will kill you dead in your sleep. So mount a CO monitor in that thing even if you've got a nice outside-venting box for that heater.

Where are you mounting your water supply, tank under the floor?
 

pappawheely

Autonomous4X4
great looking build! I love the OBS fords. and i'll shamingly admit, that while seeing your sig pic numerous times i never actually checked out your build until today. Do you take your colorado out very often? Are you in Phoenix much? There's a few of us that head out to Sycamore and Geiser loop occasionally with our prerunners as well. Only ever seen one colorado built up in person (and it was a canyon) but was interesting for sure.

Keep up the good work! i'm stoked to see that box on your chassis when the time comes

I am having issues with the Colorado. It would not start; I had to replace the computer. Now it's not starting again!?! I want to sell it to fund my FORD truck build so I am going to have to figure it out.

Propane's heavier, most combustible petroleum based gasses are. But it isn't propane you need to worry about, it's gone an additive in it so you'll smell it. It's the combustion byproduct carbon monoxide that doesn't smell, is also heavier than air and will kill you dead in your sleep. So mount a CO monitor in that thing even if you've got a nice outside-venting box for that heater.

Where are you mounting your water supply, tank under the floor?

I have a CO monitor in my pile of parts. In actual use the burner will only go on in short bursts. I don't think I will be taking long hot showers off the grid. When I first started searching for an exhaust pipe, I got sticker shock. Fortunately, I came across a website that had a great price and they also sell plumbing supplies that I need for my propane and water lines. I did not want to go out the roof with the vent, going out the side wall. The roof is thin aluminum, the wall is much stronger and will have less chances to leak. My water tank will mount on the floor of the truck box against the front wall. Trying to figure out the best way to secure it and cover it with some insulation. I am going to move my shower location to the other side of the truck to keep the propane and water lines as short as possible. I had thought that the cooktop and sink would mount in a drawer but instead it will fold down from the bulkhead. That way I don't have to run a cable raceway for the plumbing lines.

http://www.pexuniverse.com/z-flex-2sveewcf0490-z-vent

I've been checking out all these space saving furniture designs for ideas.







 
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pappawheely

Autonomous4X4
i can see it now, function on the outside...ikea living space on the inside. i like it!

When I am working I can spend days sitting at the computer with very few breaks. I want to be comfortable but also want a space that can do it all. The thing I didn't like about the big slide-in I had was the waste of space trying to make it look like grandma's house. I am going for modern minimalist. Just spent a couple hours working on the aluminum framing for the bulkhead wall. Now that I have added bracing, it's getting very rigid and I have added hardly any weight to the box. Nothing like drilling a bunch of holes over your head to work those upper body muscles.

1. The space on the left is where the water heater will mount. It will vent to the outside wall. The center cavity will contain the stove top, small counter and sink. It will fold open when in use and fold closed when not needed. The opening on the right is the sleeping area entrance. Underneath this area will be the water tank, pumps, plumbing, toilet (it will slide out) and storage.



2. All the aluminum angle is glued and riveted together.



3. It still needs to be braced to the floor but I am waiting to get the mounting to the truck frame sorted out before I commit to that. I am leaving a gap at the top of the bulkhead for air circulation.

 

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