Seriously Considering a 2006-2007 100 series

Jwestpro

Explorer
I'm young. Are you? Time is money.

Exactly, it wasn't actually "wallet" sapping. Patience maybe, but not many $'s. No, "time" is not "money" when you would otherwise not be earning it with that time spent on something else. If it were true then all the time you spent dialing in your 200 would similarly be "costing" you so much.
 

no-pistons

Adventurer
While very cool they don't provide any more function. The post was about aftermarket options.

Isn't Fox shocks an aftermarket option? :confused: Good shocks will provides more control at higher off road speeds. While the air suspension is very cool and does a great job for slower off-road speeds, I think my LR3 is terrible for anything over 20mph on rough desert tracks.
 

Jwestpro

Explorer
Isn't Fox shocks an aftermarket option? :confused: Good shocks will provides more control at higher off road speeds. While the air suspension is very cool and does a great job for slower off-road speeds, I think my LR3 is terrible for anything over 20mph on rough desert tracks.

Sure it's an aftermarket toy. So are the OME replacements for the LR3 air suspension. Which toy is better isn't the question. It was CYK's statement that with the Toyota there is such a wide range of things available with none of those for the LR3. These days pretty much all the same **** is available for the LR3 regardless of which is better.
 

Jwestpro

Explorer
Resale value.

Very true, but you got it backwards as being something in favor of the LC 200.

Unless you think all the people who buy used LR3 HATE this fact.

Resale is actually entirely against the owner unless they are selling. In NC, and some other states, annual property tax for registration is tied to the book value. With the LR3 you spend less. Same for initial purchase sales tax.

People ***** and moan over such things and don't see the good side. Hell, if the LR3 held it's value the same as a LC, then there may actually not be much aftermarket parts because there simply wouldn't be enough of them getting modified because half as many people could afford them to pump that market up.
 

CYK

Adventurer
I can't believe people are even entertaining/fielding LR3 questions in the same sentence with the 100 LC.

The LR3 is an absolute joke build. Do you realize that the overpaid Land Rover marketers actually dropped the Discovery name in favor of the LR3 because of the Discovery's ******** reputation (for good reason)? JD Power ranks it 2 out of 5 stars along the reliability front, or questionable at best, while the LC stands among the best. Even the new Range Rover's air suspension busted up on a voyage with a Merc and the Land Cruiser across the Outback. They haven't changed much have they? But I am certainly enjoying their glossy mag they send me about the Land Rover lifestyle with a bunch of articles on all that's fancy in this world. Decent poop read.

End of day, who in their right mind tells a friend who says they want an expedition SUV w/ $20K to burn to go for anything Land Rover?

Even Strut, the purveyor of ******** chromed chicken wire grills doesn't make anything for the Land Cruiser because they know what kind of customers each model/make attracts.

land-rover-lr3-4.jpg


Case closed.
 
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Jwestpro

Explorer
^ says the guy who thought it a good idea to spend $$$ on an "autobiography" version Range Rover Sport .... ;)

Regardless of what you "think", there is essentially just as much aftermarket junk made for the Land Rover as for the Land Cruiser.
 
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Jwestpro

Explorer
... Right now, I can't get my family in my Defender, and I'm not really a solo guy. Would rather have an overland vehicle that everyone can enjoy.....

If the intended purpose is to nearly always have the whole family along (is it 3, 4, 5 people?) then the fact that the LC 2nd row seats are pretty much in the way of everything except sitting becomes a moot point and therefor removes from contention one of the main features the lr3 provides, it's flat/flush folding 2nd a nd 3rd rows.

Secondly, while one lr3 may not give you any serious failure costs over 100,000 miles, there's no way to really predict this. Mine has been taken care of well beyond the factory recommendations yet still lost a rear differential last summer at less than 90k miles.

I had a very nicely optioned 2006 lc100. It's msrp was only about $5000 more than this lr3. However, had I stuck with it, I imagine I would not have bothered spending the $4500 on extended warranty which has covered my A-$$ so far.

Some of the major systems on the LC are still simpler and thus less prone to issues. Such as basic steel springs and less complicated 4x4/traction control. Random unrelated things can cause the modern land rover computers to get "worried" which result in messages like "loss of communication with ..." transmission or whatever nonsense I've seen before. I don't mind too much that a glitch on my phone or computer is "solved" by "restarting" but having to pull off a road, shut down, then start up again....while hoping it gets fixed.... is not a fun moment usually.

Now, to play devils advocate some more, the terrible depreciation of lr3's is fantastic for the used car buyer. So much that you can pretty much find your favorite lr3 and then also a perfectly running non-favorite color/optioned but doner/parts car for roughly the same $ as a super clean LC100 ;)

I almost bought a LC200 last year but decided to give it a couple more years to see what changes, if any, come to the line. For now, even with an issue here and there, the lr3 is far more functional for my needs than any LC. The air suspension is actually quite dependable but that may be due to the newer compressors. Mine is just a couple steps away from being set up with a redundant backup air supply though so some of what makes mine particularly useful and maybe more dependable are all the extra things done, which in hind sight, is a bit ridiculous when you can just buy a LC and really do nothing at all to it except put on an E range tire and leave town with no worries. No IIDtool, no being careful of maximum tire size in case suspension drops, etc.

While this thread seems all in favor of LC, go visit some of the lr3/4 sections to weed through equal kool-aid blindness to find some reasonable opinions from people who really use these things as you might.
 

CYK

Adventurer
^ says the guy who thought it a good idea to spend $$$ on an "autobiography" version Range Rover Sport .... ;)

Regardless of what you "think", there is essentially just as much aftermarket junk made for the Land Rover as for the Land Cruiser.

Put up pics of your LR3 and I'll put up pics of my autobio and let the public decide which is more desirable. It'd be a cake walk.
 

CYK

Adventurer
I almost bought a LC200 last year but decided to give it a couple more years to see what changes, if any, come to the line.

If you did, you'd realize how myopic you were to even spend a dime of energy rootin' tootin' for the LR. I'm amazed at how some people are so slow to pull the trigger. They let life pass them by. Get on the LC train you know you want to, you know it's right.

Toyota doesn't switch stuff up and it's their philosophy to make reliability tantamount to anything else. That's why there's little material diff between the '08 and '15 Land Cruiser. Best made production vehicle on earth today.
 

Jwestpro

Explorer
Put up pics of your LR3 and I'll put up pics of my autobio and let the public decide which is more desirable. It'd be a cake walk.

You are correct. On this forum a bling-tastic Range Rover sport will be laughed off the page.

Most people on here would prefer the 15" ground clearance and 1000 mile fuel range mine provides in addition to ability to sit upright in a bed platform over a cargo area drawer system or cook on the tailgate or use a 90" roof platform rack. The Range Rover sport is the least functional land rover ever made aside from the Freelander/LR2/Evoque.
 

Jwestpro

Explorer
In general EP is an overlanding forum where function usually trumps sexy fancy bits but here's a preview of the build:

-Full underbody protection by Rasta including radiator guards and deep sliders by Rover Specialties. 7 sections total.

-ARB front bull bar with winch and synthetic line.
-Kaymar rear bumper with tire and jerry can swing arms. Customized for bike rack mounted in tire arm.
-Hannibal full length rack with 2 meter side awning and 1.5 M rear awning.
-Supplemental fuel tank for 53 total gallons.
-largest custom fittable Odyssey 2150 battery running many factory lamps and other electrical modifications such as ARB Fridge and interior dome lamps for use while parked
-inverter
-on demand 2nd air compressor mounted in engine bay supplying reserve tank under passenger sill/frame.
-modified wheel wells for 32"-33" tire fitting.
-on demand, on the fly, multi-stage +/- height control via LLAMS unit
-reconfigured 3rd row seats removed changing cargo floor area into sub-floor storage.

-consideration to ad front and rear ARB air lockers
 

REDrum

Aventurero de la Selva
I can't believe people are even entertaining/fielding LR3 questions in the same sentence with the 100 LC.

The LR3 is an absolute joke build. Do you realize that the overpaid Land Rover marketers actually dropped the Discovery name in favor of the LR3 because of the Discovery's ******** reputation (for good reason)? JD Power ranks it 2 out of 5 stars along the reliability front, or questionable at best, while the LC stands among the best.

Amen! (And I'm not religious...)
 

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