I met and hung-out a bit with those guys at Expo last year. Really nice folks.I found it! Opt Overland
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Ya but everyone would climb your van in traffic.Actually, there's a DIY composite camper build that uses those rock climbing hand holds. Thought that was a pretty slick, simple, lightweight, and cheap idea.
Grass is free, my van is diesel and ass will ONLY cause trouble. So I guess the rides are free.As long as they bring something with them, I don't think I'd mind. What's the old saying, ass, grass, or gas....
Not as stupid as the Aluminess surf rack bar