trailscape
Explorer
Lots of gear at the Denver store. Just spotted the field oven. IGT tables are sporting "made in China", not sure if that's new. Also saw the Jikaro, double burner and a bunch of inserts.
Snow Peak Addiction
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Yuman Desert Rat
Expedition Leader
(TRUST me I'm by no means a snob; hopefully this doesn't come off that way) I am by NO means knocking any other manufacturers....
It's almost like comparing Snow Peak gear to Coleman.... Coleman is good but Snow Peak is better (to us). Some people are fine with an off the rack suit from Mens Warehouse, some will settle for nothing less than a custom tailored bespoke suit. Some folks are fine with an off the shelf no-brand-name knoife, others HAVE to have a Lt Wright/ESSE/artisan blade.
Example: The knife/cutting board cases I recently made: 2 layers of quilted cordura material with bound edges, topstitched and 6 stitches per inch; made in the USA with US sourced materials. It's extremely time consuming and labor intensive, but I don't care. I know it works.
I have an EDC bag (jokingly dubbed a man purse) that I made in 1998 and still use every day. I could make a simple single layered-single stitched pouch with an 8-10 stitch per inch sew job just to crank out a $hit ton and make more money.... BUT I'm a one-man show (with a penchant for superior quality stuff / gear dork) and I've been making bags/etc for about 20 years. That and I'm still a full time active duty Marine.
IF I had my own SP Oven My design would likely be form fitting to the shape of the oven. BUT for now I would just go with standard square dimensions.
By Pricier? $100 plus shipping with a "surprise inside"
http://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/58091-Snow-Peak-Addiction?p=2273584#post2273584
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motoz
Adventurer
From observing this conversation I do not believe your a snob at all. I do have concern when an artisan manufacturer feels the need to justify there items price point.
I have seen it happen so many times on a forum situation. Someone sees a need for a product, they have the skill set and ability to service this.
Although it hasn't happened within this thread, some people chime in asking why things are priced where they are etc. Sometimes even complaining about the product even though they've never bought an item from the seller.
I'm sure the actual cost to the manufacturer is actually a lot higher than the selling price. There is a heck of a lot of time associated with getting materials, R n D, the manufacture and selling / posting that are not always costed into the final selling price.
I think that it's well worth paying for a quality product from a cottage manufacturer. Get behind them to help someone making the effort so they can build their Buisness model, expand their product lines and recoup some of their initial outlay.
It can only be of benefit to all involved.
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landsharkman
Adventurer
Thanks, your example looks great, actually after shipping from Australia the price is pretty much the same, I am in when whenever you can. Talking about the care, time and skill that is put into the things you make, is not a snob to me, it is someone who takes pride in what they do.
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I've seen the grate. It's incredibly heavy and expensive. I've been using a 10" square of perforated stainless sheet in mine.
It weighs next to nothing and served the same purpose. I've cooked over 50 dinners with it and hasn't corroded at all.
As far as size goes I would recommend the LG pit over the medium. For the slight weight penalty it gives you a more cooking area. You also have more options available in regards to mesh grills and pan inserts that only fit the large grill.
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Can you tell me what gauge or thickness you are using?
Yuman Desert Rat
Expedition Leader
Thanks. I really appreciate that. I honestly DO take an immense amount of pride in my work. I wasn't ever planning on reproducing my creations for others to enjoy. I just sort of happened. It was actually the support of fellow Snow Peak addicts that made it happen... A few years back a did a few runs of my strap kits for people who wanted them. When I no longer had access to an industrial sewing machine it fell off for a while. Once the requests started piling up I decided to invest in a machine with the hopes of at least breaking even on the cost of the Machine and materials. I'm just about there. I designed a logo and patches made to help offset the initial investment (and because; who doesn't love a nice patch?) So.... long story short... I will be expanding my offerings to include the SP oven. I just need to design, develop and produce it. I'll get started this week. Please be patient. For everyone interested; Please PM me and I'll shoot you my email so that we don't hijack this thread (too much more)
Thanks again to everyone in our community, past and present who have helped make my ideas useful to others. I'm humbled and forever grateful.
Yuman Desert Rat
Expedition Leader
From observing this conversation I do not believe your a snob at all. I do have concern when an artisan manufacturer feels the need to justify there items price point.
I have seen it happen so many times on a forum situation. Someone sees a need for a product, they have the skill set and ability to service this.
Although it hasn't happened within this thread, some people chime in asking why things are priced where they are etc. Sometimes even complaining about the product even though they've never bought an item from the seller.
I'm sure the actual cost to the manufacturer is actually a lot higher than the selling price. There is a heck of a lot of time associated with getting materials, R n D, the manufacture and selling / posting that are not always costed into the final selling price.
I think that it's well worth paying for a quality product from a cottage manufacturer. Get behind them to help someone making the effort so they can build their Buisness model, expand their product lines and recoup some of their initial outlay.
It can only be of benefit to all involved.
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Thanks, MOTOZ... since starting this again; it has consumed a great deal of my time but I thoroughly enjoy creating things so I will never complain. I just appreciate the positive feedback and support. I look forward to creating new items to enhance everyone's Snow Peak collections and create useful pieces of kit that will last long enough for your grandchildren's grandchildren to enjoy.
Yuman Desert Rat
Expedition Leader
Thanks, Chrys... I'm glad they're serving you well. Let me know if you need anything else?
I need to make a "will work for gear" sign and send it to send it to their CEO... lol
motoz
Adventurer
Yuman Desert Rat
Expedition Leader
Those are BEEEEEEautiful!
Yuman Desert Rat
Expedition Leader
A HUGE order heading out the door.... thanks, P.H.
NOW I can focus on that oven bag and another special project that I've been tinkering with.
NOW I can focus on that oven bag and another special project that I've been tinkering with.
sumnrfam
Active member
on the left the latest addition to the 'little lamp nocturne canister cover family' or shall we say LLNCCF
Looking forward to going :camping:
WOWW!!!! Those are beautiful !!
