split axle from f250 1980-1997 front quigley used.

rebar

Adventurer
I was talking to a owner of a 1997 quigley e250 who said quigley used the ford split front axle from the f250 in their 4x4 conversions..

Can anyone tell me if the ford split axle is suitable for a diesel or big block swap? Or should I be looking for e350 with dana?
 

ujoint

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I wouldn't recommend it. They eat tires, steering and alignments. Go with a good ol solid axle D60.
 

rebar

Adventurer
I wouldn't recommend it. They eat tires, steering and alignments. Go with a good ol solid axle D60.

Thanks Chris.. Other than the dana axle.. What other parts would I need to replace the split ford axle with a dana?

Man.. I thought I hit paydirt with this e250..
 

Jakey

New member
Twin Traction Beam, aka TTB is the proper nomenclature
Quigley never converted with TTB
However 2 other converters have used TTB, Clydesdale in Canada and Quadvan/Thor Somewheres around the Pacific Northwest[IIRC]
 

ujoint

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Thanks Chris.. Other than the dana axle.. What other parts would I need to replace the split ford axle with a dana?

Man.. I thought I hit paydirt with this e250..

You'll need a complete kit less the t-case parts.
 

rebar

Adventurer
vantruck1.jpgvantruck.jpg Is this a split axle?
 

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rebar

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Funny cuz quigley told me they never put those in yet a guy claims his 98 has a split axle. Iv got the vin so maybe I will bug Joyce again.

he says.."hi mike the axle #7E24E653 98E2 conversion #44axle vin #1FTPE24L7WHB61374"
 
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Jakey

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That's a Dana 50, not a 44
Quigley and most vehicle upfitters will apply a decal in the driver door jamb area.
 

simple

Adventurer
wow! thread dug from the depths. I think Agile has proven his systems work well. Doesn't mean just anyone can slap a TTB under a van and expect the same results.
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
Sure, TTB does great in some conditions.

I don't really want to get into the debate of solid axle vs TTB though!
 
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Mwilliamshs

Explorer
TTB has a great ride on road and off, excellent wheel travel at any ride height, great OE parts availability, great aftermarket support...

It does have more wearable parts (u-joints, high-deflection bushings) and it requires a trained alignment technician or knowledgeable owner.

It's also going to be more susceptible to damage from giant tires and lockers. The popular Dana 60 solid axle comes from 1 ton trucks (F350, etc) while the Dana 50 TTB comes from 3/4 ton trucks (F250, etc) so there's obviously a strength difference. That being said, TTBs are common with turbo diesels, 460s, and snow plows, etc without problems.
 
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rebar

Adventurer
wow! thread dug from the depths. I think Agile has proven his systems work well. Doesn't mean just anyone can slap a TTB under a van and expect the same results.

Yeah, but good info in buried in the archive's.
Like this..

Twin Traction Beam, aka TTB is the proper nomenclature
Quigley never converted with TTB
However 2 other converters have used TTB, Clydesdale in Canada and Quadvan/Thor Somewheres around the Pacific Northwest[IIRC]

How consistent did ford keep the van frames through the generations? Did the 3rd gen, which is where you might find a S/K TTB, have a different width?

TTB.jpg
 
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AFBronco235

Crew Chief
The only problems with aligning a TTB front suspension is that most kids these days don't know how to use a damn tape measure. You don't need a fancy laser alignment machine to align the tires. Just a tape measure and some good tires.

The TTB is just as tough as a solid axle, but with a much smoother ride. Granted, its not made for the heavier vehicles, 1 ton and up, and would need heavy reinforcements, but for the 3/4 ton and down, its works great. I've seen guys in Broncos, which all had the TTB after 1980, jump their rigs with the original stock suspension with no problems. Within reason of course. I would recommend heavier coil springs but other than that, its an excellent system.

The system is a bit more complicated, but not beyond a good garage mechanics abilities.

To anybody who does try to install a TTB, know this. They came with two different hub sizes. One size for factory manual hubs and one for factory auto-locking hubs. However, due to the weak design of the auto hubs, many were converted to manual using factory style manual hubs and a conversion kit. So if you pick up a TTB from the junkyard, and it has manual hubs, you need to get the numbers off the bearings before you replace them so you can get the correct bearings and seals for a rebuild.
 

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