Pskhaat
2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
And yet look at the sales figures.
The 2011 Jeep LACK OF DIESEL thread....
- Thread starter Metcalf
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And yet look at the sales figures.
Dave Bennett
Adventurist
Only because people wanted the CRD above all else...
SSF556
SE Expedition Society
The diesel in my WK makes up for the ugliness....:sombrero:
Totally agree...it is the inner beauty that counts...diesel beauty
Although, the WK looks a lot better with a lift and bigger tires
Ditto. I bought a KJ CRD because there was no TJ CRD. I traded my TJ Rubicon for it, even. That 13 mpg in the Rubi was killing me.
FreeManDan
Adventurer
This thread intrigues me, I think jeep COULD bring a diesel wrangle to market and people WOULD buy enough of them to be worth it. But what else is involved in a diesel under current EPA standards? Urea injection into the exhaust system, particle filter, ect...I can see a down side. Have you seen the exhaust on the new super duty powerstroke vs the 6.2l gas version? The diesel exhaust looks like something out of star wars, or nasa! Heat shielding everywhere because the urea makes that tail pipe hot, like burning charcoal in a blown furnace. Anyone more knowledgeable then me know if this would effect ground clearance, or space, or suspension parts under the vehicle?
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
There are some EPA factors that deal with how many vehicles and of what kind a company can produce for diesel emissions.
VW meets current diesel emissions without fluid after-treatment. I don't know if this is because it is a lighter vehicle and falls on a different table for emissions, or they are just that good. They do use a particulate filter.
The Euro V wrangler didn't look that much more complicated or busy on the underside. It has a diesel particulate filter. Supposedly it doesn't meet USA diesel emissions for its 'class'
The Euro VI version of the jeep engine coming in a few years is suppose to meet USA diesel emission for its class. It was rumored at EJS that this would require a fluid after-treatment.
For me....I am thinking about the 2.8 CRD from a Liberty in an LJ again
VW meets current diesel emissions without fluid after-treatment. I don't know if this is because it is a lighter vehicle and falls on a different table for emissions, or they are just that good. They do use a particulate filter.
The Euro V wrangler didn't look that much more complicated or busy on the underside. It has a diesel particulate filter. Supposedly it doesn't meet USA diesel emissions for its 'class'
The Euro VI version of the jeep engine coming in a few years is suppose to meet USA diesel emission for its class. It was rumored at EJS that this would require a fluid after-treatment.
For me....I am thinking about the 2.8 CRD from a Liberty in an LJ again
Pskhaat
2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
Welcome Reichy, I think most can assure you that the desire for diesel has well been conveyed. Sorry, but until someone with some cohones gets into proper Jeep executive management, you'll get gasser V6s for the foreseeable future. I'll be one of the first to reward said risk with a purchase. This applies to Toyota too who either A) have to be so biased and/or B) so bought-off on gasoline as the market.
Dan Grec
Expedition Leader
If there is no announcement by the end of May, I'll be doing something big about this.
There will be a post here about it when & if it happens.
-Dan
Dan Grec
Expedition Leader
I agree.
Fingers crossed they can tweak 30mpg out of the Unlimited, and I'll be the first in line to buy.
-Dan
srmitchell
Observer
If? I've been paying $4.49 for a month!