MatthewThompson
Adventurer
This is an issue of pre-focus, not shutter release. Pre-focus manually by depressing the release half-way, or use the hyperfocal method if you can.
Ultimate Expedition Compact Camera Discussion
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This is an issue of pre-focus, not shutter release. Pre-focus manually by depressing the release half-way, or use the hyperfocal method if you can.
Michael Slade
Untitled
Holy crap, I can't believe I actually read through all of that.
The Leica wins.
The Leica wins.
Scott Brady
Founder
Matthew,
Have you considered the X1?
It is priced within the range of some mortals.
I want to love it, but expect the fixed lens would ultimately be a disappointment , especially given the limited the 12mp sensor. You could get away with a lot more if the sensor had more to offer (like the 18 from the M9).
Have you considered the X1?
It is priced within the range of some mortals.
I want to love it, but expect the fixed lens would ultimately be a disappointment , especially given the limited the 12mp sensor. You could get away with a lot more if the sensor had more to offer (like the 18 from the M9).
Scott Brady
Founder
All part of making you stronger Michael.
Lost Canadian
Expedition Leader
At the end of the day the biggest strength and or shortcoming most of these cameras face is not their inherent specs or abilities, it's the person holding them. I can certainly appreciate the desire and lust to use good tools, but if most people actually put as much time and effort into their photography as they did/do searching for cameras, they would probably shock themselves and be content with what they have.
Gooseberry
Explorer
My 2 cents is if you can have it in your pocket you will use it or just miss the shot. I like my olympus 850 SW. its handled the cold done shots under water and taken a rock from a 950 super earth mover while in jacket pocket and still works.
Scott Brady
Founder
I think that is true to a point, but a bit dismissive of the affect quality equipment has on an outcome. In addition, part of the fun of any hobby or profession is the research and acquisition of new kit. My business demands quality photography in the harshest environments of the world. One day I might be riding a mountain bike, the next a motorcycle, the next few months living out of a Suzuki Jimny. These are complex equipment problems IMO.
I suspect many here contemplate the best camera gear for their particular problem.
This discussion has already brought new light to several of the cameras I mentioned, taking several off the table.
In the end, you are right. The photographer is the most influential element of a great photograph, just as a driver is on the trail. But give a great driver a great vehicle and the results move from good to great. From technically accurate to the stuff of myth and mastery.
Using a wonderful piece of gear makes the user that much more thoughtful, engaged and connected with the device. Put an M9 in an artists hands and the connection with the camera become emotional. I have experienced that myself- that connection is easily reflected in the images we produce.
Lost Canadian
Expedition Leader
No, like I said, I can and do appreciate good equipment. Is it important? Yes, to a point, but it is just a tool, and I personally feel what you use is a lot less important to the final outcome then most people actually realize. I could throw up any of a number of samples as an example and I'll bet most people would be hard pressed to identify the type of equipment used. As another example, simply look at the Vivian Maier thread. She used a simple Rolleiflex and yet her images have brought people to tears. I doubt that result has anything to do with the equipment she used.
For some that feeling is all there is, which is fine. The problem for most actual users however is that feeling is mostly superficial, and it quickly wears off when the rubber hits the road.expeditionswest said:
expeditionswest said:
I can appreciate that, and anyones desire to best match their equipment to their needs.
LOL, I agree. I laugh because for me, the choice of gear is less about the conection and more about minimizing my emotional frustrations with its inherent shortcomings.expeditionswest said:
Scott Brady
Founder
Lost Canadian
Expedition Leader
Toyota, LOL!I take it then that you don't drive a Land Rover
Michael Slade
Untitled
I take it then that you don't drive a Land Rover
...or shoot a 12x20...or both!
BTW, I fall more on the side of the operator than the camera. My 9th graders shooting manually controlled Canon P&S cameras make miraculous images once they figure out that they can control the tool and are awakened to the creativity within themselves.
No RAW. No fancy lenses. No expensive anything.
MatthewThompson
Adventurer
The digital Leicas don't do much for me, frankly. Anything they can do, any of the Nippon brands can do 90% as good for 30% of the price. Both of the examples I listed would be fed a steady diet of 35mm.
Scott Brady
Founder
This new Olympus XZ-1 is pretty sweet. F1.8 lens
Every Miles A Memory
Expedition Leader
So you're at a birthday party. The main guest of the night walks in unannounced and you grab your camera and try and take a few shots of the excitement on everyones face as they walk in the door.
With a DSLR, especially a Canon that can be left on, but set to go to sleep in the on mode, I can grab the camera, point it at the door the person just walked in and fire off multiple shots within a few seconds of the person walking in the door.
With a P&S there is no way that would be possible even with the hyperfocal method. It's just not possible. Do they work for pre-thought-out shots when you dont want to carry a big DSLR, yes, but they dont work all that well unless the conditions are perfect.
If you have the time to sit and wait out the shot, line everything up and have a P&S or smaller camera produce a good photo, then you probably could have made the photo with a DSLR faster and come home with a better image
Just my .02 cents
There are hundreds of threads on here about reducing the gear we carry, but my camera equipment is one thing I dont skimp on
bajasurf
Explorer
Pat. I have a Panasonic FZ20 that does have a sleep mode. I just put the camera into sleep mode and waited for the camera to go to sleep. I then clicked the shutter button and counted out the seconds. In five seconds I had recorded 4 shots from the time I pressed the shutter button.