Unimogadventures - Our build and travel thread

PeteFox

New member
Iain
A quick bit of maths. Your meter with the induction cooker set at 1600W shows 185A at 12.1V, this is 2238W, so either a dodgy meter or a lot of losses in the conversion to AC, in the order of an extra 40% power to drive it.
Is the cooker rated at the watts used in cooking or the power used to drive it? If it's 1600w of cooking power then it's similar to a microwave in the power lost/consumed in operating
Pete
 
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Iain_U1250

Explorer
Time for another update. First off is the camper heating system. This has to have been one of the must frustrating parts of the build to date. It has taken an extraordinary amount of time, and I've done thing three or four time, and still not got it right. Finally I can say that I think it is in to stay. The diagram below shows the basis of the system. I explained how it works in the last blog post, so I won't go into to again. The main problem has been with the number of stainless steel fittings, and getting the joints to seal. I have had threads fail, "galling" is the technical term and stainless steel is very prone to galling. It occurs when you tighten up a joint with lubrication ( I can't lubricate the threads or the sealer won't stick) When you try to loosen it off again, the threads bind up and you can't get it undone. This is very frustrating when it is something I need to undo to get to be able to get the manifold out of the truck.

I decided to us the Loctite thread sealing system, this was recommended to me by the suppliers and other people on the net. It was definitely the wrong decision. Loctite will set up within a few seconds once the threads are tight, only problem for me is that I normally have to turn the joint to get it to line up, and in that few seconds it takes to check that it is properly aligned, the sealant has hardened. Now if you are a 1/4 of a turn out, and then tighten it up a bit more, the sealant then leaks. I found this out the hard way by getting everything installed, and then testing the system with air. About 10% of the joints leaked. So then I had to take it all apart again, and that when the sealant had done it's job and it was very difficult to undo. It would sometimes take me half and hour to get one fitting loosened, and all my strength just to turn it a tiny bit. It was so frustrating I did not take any photos, but did remember to take one of a leak in the return manifold in the boot when I was testing it. I pumped the whole system up to 4 bar, and sprayed soapy water on each joint. It formed a series of tiny bubbles as you can see below. These leaks are on a section where I used standard PTFE tape, which is pretty thin.

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I changed over to PTFE tape, a heavy duty version I have been using on other parts of the camper water system with great success and no failures so far. In hindsight I should have just done that from the beginning. This time I tested each section before I put it in.

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Finally, around 11:30pm on Thursday night I was able to say that the system should now not leak. I hope this is the case, I'll see once I get water in, it is air tight to 4 bar, and that is four times the pressure the radiator runs at.


In between the frustration of the water system, I decided to do a few jobs I had been putting off for a long time. First was the stay on the tool box compartment. With a bit of fiddling and some new brackets, I got the Jaguar XJ-S pneumatic boot stays I have had for years fitted. One is enough and whilst it took a two goes to get the right angle. length etc. It works and fits nicely. I have a spare stay as well.

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I also fitted all the clamps and support for the brake lines and airlines on the axles and torque tubes, fitting the breather lines for the diff, the air e-brake actuators and various other things that can suck in water if they were used when we were parked up in a river or something. Rerouteing some of the lines led me to discover another problem. I have been using the ARB compressor to top up the air system to release the handbrake whenever I want to move the truck or just to check for any air leaks in the system. I decided to re-route one of the lines, and discovered the was a lot of water in it, and some of the steel fittings were starting to rust already and that was on the airline going straight into the Wabco dryer. This is not good, as it means that the the dryer will get used up quickly. The problem is the high humidity over hear, close to 70% some days. I looked in to various solutions and decided the best way to go was to install the "wet tank" before the dryer. Previously I had put this after the dryer, to catch anything that got through the dryer. I only did this because most of the info on the net and recommendations from a few other people is to have a wet tank just after the unloader valve. I spoke to Air Brake Systems who have been supplying all the parts for this build. They said it would be a good practice to install a small wet tank before the dryer, as this would greatly increase the life expectancy of the dryer, and prevent contamination of the desiccant with oil as well. So I decided to change the air supply system. It was a bit more difficult than just changing over a few air lines. A proper wet tank has be be vertical, so that it can do a good job in separating the water/oil out. The old way I had installed it in horizontally, as it was not expected to contain much anyway. This meant I had to reposition both the wet tank and the purge tank which I had mounted horizontal. Finding a new home for it proved fairly difficult. Eventually after much crawling around and hitting my head numerous time on various parts of the the chassis, I found a good spot, mounted on the rear plate, right at the back of the truck. It fits nicely, with all the required clearance for camper movement, suspension and frame movement. I had to jack the camper and axles up in various position to see how thing move, too a while but it was worth checking as it is surprising how much the rear sway bar pivots around from full droop to maximum compression, It only required a flat bracket with no welding for a change, just a bit of a bend. Drilling the holes in the rear plate was not so easy, but made possible at least by my right angle drill. The tanks is pretty tall with all the non-return valves up top, and the automatic drain valve below, but it fits nicely.

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There was no space for the purge tank with the wet tank in this position, but I found a good spot for it under the front of the camper which solves another problem of the fuel filter being easily visible from casual passers-by. The original bolts were too high up to use, so I tapped in four 8mm threads into the support bracket, and fixed it to the underside of the camper through the checkerplate. Four stainless steel countersunk screws and it fits very nicely out of the way as well.

I have also been busy fitting up the fuel system. This took quite a bit of figuring as like all things on this truck it is pretty complicated. This is the system I have come up with.

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From the fuel tank, fuel is drawn up into a 100 micron washable filter. This filter is to protect the Facet pump. The Facet pump has two uses, first off to prime the system. This enable us to bleed out air should we every run a tank dry pretty easily. I have one on my Discovery Tdi and it makes changing filters or sorting problem like air leaks very simple. It will not be needed when the engine is running, as the lift pump is capable of drawing fuel out of the tank, but it will sure make it easier to prime the system. I had to get some pumps in from England, as the total lift require is around 60cm. The ones sold here can only lift around 30cm at best, I know because I have one and it struggled to prime itself out of a jerry can with only around 25cm of lift, taking about 10 minutes before it eventually started to flow. I got two of the Posiflow pumps that can lift 1.2m, so that should work OK I hope.

The CAV filter/water trap is next, these are cheap little filters that will keep the nasties out of the Pollak valve. It seems the main cause of failure of the Pollak valve is it jamming due to contamination and the plastic gears stripping. This should solve the problem without creating a fuel delivery problem which a smaller filter might. I bought a box of 10 CAV filters for $30, which is not bad for something I have been running on the Discovery for 2 years without needing to change the filter.

Next in line is the Pollak valve which switches fuel supply between the two tanks. It also switches the return line and the fuel sender unit lines. I may decide to fit another fuel gauge for the second tank, but it would only take a second or two to switch over the valve if I was unsure of how much fuel was in the second tank so I may not.

The second function of the Facet pump is to be able to transfer fuel from one tank to another. I have not shown it on the diagram, but it is a just a valve between the supply line of one tank and the return line of the other. Opening the valve with the pump on will draw fuel from the tank, through the filters and back to the other tank. This should enable us to clean out dirty/watery fuel should we be unlucky enough to get some. I still have to fit these ,just looking for some small valves.

The photo below shows the set-up on the drivers side with showing the CAV filter and the Pollak valve. The mount on the valve was a bit weird, being at a strange angle. I decided to fit a support bracket to hold the fuel line and take all the weight off the Pollack valve. That should help it survive a bit longer.

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I had to drill a hole in the fuel tank for a new supply line, Webasto do not recommend running of the vehicle supply line as even the tiniest of air leaks creates big problems with the stove or heater. I had to track down the Webasto fuel spikes, as my kit did not have any of them. Evenually I found two at my local Caravan service centre, they had loads of them as they come in all the other kits, and on caravans they run dedicated tanks. For $5 each I bought two, and then fitted them into the tanks. I drilled the 25mm hole in the tank, placing 20 of my little cobalt magnets around the hole to limit the amount of swarf getting in the tank. This worked very well and I got most of it with only a little bit dropping into the tank the rest I got with a magnet on a stick through the level sensor hole. Just in case I dropped in a couple of the magnets down into the tank, each about 1" from the suction rod to catch any metal bits left somewhere. I can pull them out using my magnet on a stick by taking out the level sensor if needs be, but it should help keep anything metal away from the intakes, either way, the filters will catch it before any damage is done. I also had to track down a 5mm brass T to run the stove and heater supplies off the one line - I thought it would be easy, but none of the fancy hydraulic hose shops I have used had any or could order them in. 6mm or 1/4" were easy, but that was too big for the Webasto lines and with nothing available on then net that I could find, I was going to go with a nylon T like those used on windscreen washers, and went off to the local Supercheap auto, an lo and behold, they had on a stand, one little 5mm brass T - just brilliant


Other things that have been done is the exhaust system for the Webasto 90ST diesel furnace. I will drill a hole into the side of the bash plate, and direct the hot exhaust inside. This will protect the exhaust from any direct water going up the pipe, and also provide heat to the engine sump as well. Might as well use the waste heat to provide some extra warmth.

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I also fitted the stainless steel PTFE hoses that run from the front to the back of the truck for the camper heating system. I sure pays to shop around, I go the 10m of hose for $270, and another $150 for the fittings and crimping. I was quotes $125 per meter to make up the hoses from Pirtek and even more from other places. Because of this I struggle for a week trying to get some solid stainless steel lines bent up and fitted, but it proved to be too difficult. I might have been possible with the camper off the truck, and the cab tilted , but I could not make the pipe fit. I scoured the internet, found a company call Pacific Hoseflex who sell the hose in bulk and asked them for a quote on supplying 10m of the braided hose.

The hose is very strong and very stiff. I had a 50/50 choice between which angle I wanted the hose tails relative to the one in the front to be as once they are crimped they don't move. I got one right, but was out by 180 degrees on the other one. A spare elbow later, and it was all sorted.

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I also got the little electric booster pump. If it is marketed by Davies Craig, but it is actually a Bosch pump. it is tiny and doesn't need any brackets as it weighs less than the hose.

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This is what the heating system looks like now. I have used a special hose supposedly good for everything from oil to transmission fluid to fuel at 300psi , so should last for a while in our heating system.

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Iain_U1250

Explorer
Finally, since the workshop was cleanish, I took a few photos of what it looked like tonight.

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I stitched this one together from five photos in Photoshop, next time I'll take my proper camera and shoot a panarama.

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Overall Dimensions:

Length- 6.2m
Width - 2.2m
Height - 3.4m
Outside of tyres - 2.0m
Clearance under diff - 490mm
Clearance under lowest part of chassis - 690mm
 

Iain_U1250

Explorer
I often look back and wonder if I should have rather spent the money on getting a better truck as a base to start from. Comparing it so some of the truck I have seen, mine was in pretty poor condition and since it was built as a road-rail truck, had so many modifications that I had to undo. Five years ago, Unmogs were difficult to find over here, and the Australia Dollar was only worth $0.60 USD and 0.25 UKP. Importing one from overseas was very expensive.

My truck has had it's 30th birthday already. I think it might be even older as it may have been one of the trucks that was one of four imported into Australia as U1200 demo. They did not sell, and basically stood around for a year or two, then MB Australia brought in the parts to change them into U1250s. A chassis swap, new torque tubes and an extension to the wiring and they had a U1250 which got sold to NSW Railcorp, which then turned them into road-rail mogs by adding a huge weight of rail gear, a crane and a cherry picker. Poor thing used to tow five rail carriages around fixing stuff. When I got it the engine and transmission have been overhauled, hopefully they did a decent job on the them. The only thing original on the air system is the engine compressor, and likewise the only original thing on the hydraulic brakes are the two rear calipers (which I put new seal into) and load compensating valve. In then end most of the truck will have been replaced as the more I looked at things on the truck, the more problems I found, crushed and rusty brake lines, rusty air lines and dodgy fixes. There was one point when I though it would be better to just get another Unimog, and write off the cost as bad experience. I persevered, and just keep on doing things or redoing thing until I think it is "right". The way I have explained it to my wife, is that we don't want to be stuck in Mongolia, or Nigeria or some other remote place waiting to import a $100 part that will now cost us more than $1000 and leave us stranded for weeks.

The next big task is rewiring the whole truck. I found so many cracked and patched wires, it seems that whoever maintained the truck would just bypass the problem with some new wiring rather than fix the old one. I have also added so many extra things to the electrical system, that just patching up the old loom would be a waste of time. At least if something goes wrong, I will be able to fix it, though I doubt anyone else will have the faintest idea where to start. I'll be keep lots of records, drawing up the "single line diagrams" for each circuit so I can remember what each colour wire does, and where the power comes from and goes to . I want to make it more like a modern car, with the power distribution a t various point around the truck and as much switching as possible coming from relays close to the load. This way I will only the control wiring in the dash and overhead console. All relays will be "negative switched" so if there is a short in the control wires, worst is the relay is switched on. That way I can keep the "magic smoke" inside the wires or at least limit the amount of damage a short will do. I am actually looking forward to doing the re-wiring, as it is pretty simple, and it will be great to get one thing after another working.



Iain
Yet again I am amazed by your attention to detail, it looks spot on!
 

Joe917

Explorer
I often look back and wonder if I should have rather spent the money on getting a better truck as a base to start from
I'm exhausted just reading what you've done !:bowdown:

Iain, don't go there. Those of us that have purchased vehicles and started to upgrade them will always hit a "what the hell am I doing" point. You have done great work, you know your vehicle inside out and you have the quality of a top end builder. I always use Unicat as a benchmark. Could I have got this from Unicat for this money? Hell no! Rewiring scares the hell out of me too. Just go wire by wire circuit by circuit, as you say " no worries". Enjoying the build.
BTW you guys suck in the winter olympics!
 

pairospam

Observer
Iain:

Having done mostly the same you have done so far, mostly, I know what you talk about saying that maybe it would have been better to get a truck in better condition to start with. The Merkabah is 35 years old.

But no, no Sir... your truck is exactly what you needed, in the precise moment of your life, and you are exactly the guy that the truck needed to be reborn. You have the time, the money, the skills and the will to persevere. It is just a test, with a big prize in the end line.

Thanks for the detailed description and the pictures. Keep up.

By the way, maybe I missed it but, has the engine ever run since the beggining of times?

Cheers.


Pairoa
 

nick disjunkt

Adventurer
Hi Iain,

Awesome work as always.

I had an almost identical problem with the brass connectors that I used on the central heating system in my truck. I use a Webasto Thermotop C/E system and have mostly used 19mm rubber hose to distribute the coolant. All of the radiators that I have used need a domestic 15mm copper/plastic feed and to convert between the 15mm plastic pipe and the 19mm rubber hose I used two brass connectors with a 3/4'' BSP thread between them. With the standard PTFE tape, even using a lot of it, I had a leakage on about 30% of fittings. I ended up using what is sold in the UK as gas PTFE tape, it is much thicker and I had no leakage on any joint sealed using it.
 

Iain_U1250

Explorer
BTW you guys suck in the winter olympics!

LOL, probably because we don't care much about winter sports, only a tiny bit of the country gets snow, and most of us have enough sense not to go there during winter - anything less than 20 degrees Celcius is way to cold for me :)


Iain:

Having done mostly the same you have done so far, mostly, I know what you talk about saying that maybe it would have been better to get a truck in better condition to start with. The Merkabah is 35 years old.

But no, no Sir... your truck is exactly what you needed, in the precise moment of your life, and you are exactly the guy that the truck needed to be reborn. You have the time, the money, the skills and the will to persevere. It is just a test, with a big prize in the end line.

Thanks for the detailed description and the pictures. Keep up.

By the way, maybe I missed it but, has the engine ever run since the beggining of times?

Cheers.


Pairoa


I am amazed at your patience and dedication as well, your truck seems to have a had similar life to mine, but I think they worked yours a lot hard with no mechanical sympathy at all.

When I got my truck it was running, engine starts first time, no smoke etc. The air system had quite a few leaks, building air pressure enough to release the handbrake took about 10 minutes. One circuit of the front brakes did not work, due to a crushed pipe, but there was still enough brake force to almost put you through the window if you put your foot on the pedal. The diff locks did not work, probably never been used and both front and rear were leaking. Once I had unloaded the crane and all the rail gear, the truck went pretty well. Gear changes were smooth, no crunching and easy to change. I am hoping that not having started it for almost five years had not harmed anything. The engine and transmission was supposedly was rebuilt. I pulled the sump of to have a look, and the bearings are oversize, and the cylinders still have hone marks on the them. The injection pump looks like new, so probably was overhauled at least. The transmission oil was pretty clean, and just a tiny bit of metal dust on the magnetic drain plugs. There is some gasket silicone around the gaskets, so I thing the have at least opened up the transmission. The portal axles had been worked on, but they had used some cheap standard bearings for one side of the gears, not the very heavy duty ones MB supply, and they had started to fail already. That's a pretty long answer to was the truck running, in short yes it was, but a few problems, maybe a few less than yours, but like you, I want everything as good a possible.



Hi Iain,

Awesome work as always.

I had an almost identical problem with the brass connectors that I used on the central heating system in my truck. I use a Webasto Thermotop C/E system and have mostly used 19mm rubber hose to distribute the coolant. All of the radiators that I have used need a domestic 15mm copper/plastic feed and to convert between the 15mm plastic pipe and the 19mm rubber hose I used two brass connectors with a 3/4'' BSP thread between them. With the standard PTFE tape, even using a lot of it, I had a leakage on about 30% of fittings. I ended up using what is sold in the UK as gas PTFE tape, it is much thicker and I had no leakage on any joint sealed using it.

I was originaly planning on using copper as well. I saw on another builder site that he had used stainless steel fittings. It looked a lot easier and I thought that stainless steel would be stronger and quicker, using screwed fittings rather than having to silver solder everything. I almost scrapped all the stainless when it was leaking so badly, and remake the manifold in copper which I now think would have been easier. Getting the right PTFE tape was key to stopping it from leaking. The tape I use seems to almost liquify at when screwed in, turning it from a thin tape into a solid plastic. So if anyone is building pipework, use a thick gas or heavy duty PTFE tape.
 

graynomad

Photographer, traveller
anything less than 20 degrees Celsius is way to cold for me
Same here these days (actually 25 is a bit cool), but I used to ski every weekend in a previous life.

Being ex-mil then fire brigade my ACCO had a lot of wires no longer required, I ripped the lot out and had a sparky re-loom the entire truck. Mind you our truck is 1971 vintage, it only needs 5 wires :)

I would certainly rewire.

Yes we all had a "****** am I doing" moment, I had many, a few times I felt totally overwhelmed. But head down and bum up and it will get done.
 

whoshotjr

New member
Getting the right PTFE tape was key to stopping it from leaking. The tape I use seems to almost liquify at when screwed in, turning it from a thin tape into a solid plastic. So if anyone is building pipework, use a thick gas or heavy duty PTFE tape.

If you have leak problems I can highly recommend Loxeal 58-11. It is good for potable water fittings, gas, diesel, and it works even in high vibration environments.It is far superior to PTFE tape in so many ways.

Here is a ink to the website: http://www.loxeal.com/pipe_sealing.html

In Oz you can buy it from plumbing suppliers usually.

HTH,

Jason
 

Iain_U1250

Explorer
That looks just like their version of the Loctite thread sealant that caused all the problems in the beginning. The problem with that type of sealant is that it sets up very quickly one you tighten up the joint hand tight, you have only a few seconds to do up the last turn or so before it sets, them when you want totweak it that extra bit to line it all up, you break the seal. It would work if you had the whole assembly out in the open, but I was trying to use on joints where I needed to make some minor alignment changes to get things to line up for the next assembly, and that's where I found the joints leaked. This meant disassembling the whole lot again.

If you have leak problems I can highly recommend Loxeal 58-11. It is good for potable water fittings, gas, diesel, and it works even in high vibration environments.It is far superior to PTFE tape in so many ways.

Here is a ink to the website: http://www.loxeal.com/pipe_sealing.html

In Oz you can buy it from plumbing suppliers usually.

HTH,

Jason

I don't mind doing wiring. I can't use a normal harness as I have so many extra electrical things that there is no point. I have to build up my own harness wire by wire and feed it through the chassis The Unimog does not have that many wires, the majority of it will be my new stuff.

These are the things I have added to the truck system, not the camper box where there is a load more stuff but that is basically finished.
Electric seats
Electric mirrors
Power windows
A/C - dual system
Water/air intercooler fan and pump
Electric cooling and a/c fans
Spot lights x3 pairs
Cameras x 4
Dual monitors for cameras
Clearance lights
Side marker lights
Central locking
Radio ( + two amplifiers and 7 speakers)
CB radio
Map lights
Winch Control ( front and rear winches)
Independent diff locks solenoids, front and rear
Claas Overdrive
Boost gauge
EGT gauge
Air intake temp gauge
Volt meter
Transmission temp gauge
Auxillary ARB compressor
Rear fog lights
Rear spot lights
Compartment door open warning lights x 4

There are probably a few I have forgotten as well, and some things I still have to figure out like the intermittent wipers, alarms system and various tracking systems.

Replacing the truck harness will be a bit tedious, but getting all my new stuff working is fun :)


wiring what a pain in the butt .fixing what other people have done in the pass ...are you think maybe getting a new wiring harness?
 

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