Why does "size matter" in N.America???

Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
The page plant, not sure what is called contributes a lot of air problems to the area. I said westerly winds because even they can bring in smog.
 

goin camping

Explorer
Interesting and amusing thread.

How about everyone just does what works for them and everyone else just minds their own business?

What works for you won't work for everyone else so just leave them in peace.
 

Alaskan1Ton

Observer
Interesting and amusing thread.

How about everyone just does what works for them and everyone else just minds their own business?

What works for you won't work for everyone else so just leave them in peace.

My thoughts EXACTLY. Stop being so damn judgemental people, run whatever tire you want, however much lift you want. Personally I live in Alaska and MOST of the off-road driving I do requires ATLEAST a 35" tire or you just wont get back to where you want to go. Sure, If I wanna stick to fire roads and bike trails Ill keep a 33" tire, however on my 133" wheelbase truck I need some serious ground clearance to get in and out of where I like to go without tearing and bashing my truck all up by bottoming out everywhere. I can either run a 33" tire and spend most of my trip winching and Hi-Lift jacking myself out or I can run my 40" tires and get to where I want to go much easier. If you dont like it then you wont go with me and if you do go with me cause you swear your Rover/Nissan/Tacoma on 33's will get you "anywhere" you need to get then you will be left behind or I'll be pulling your butt out all day. I dont run big tires to show off, I run big tires because it fulfills my needs to go where I need to go.
 
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Alaskan1Ton

Observer
Now if I ran in an area that didnt have 3-4 ft mudholes and endless bogs and large rocks and logs then I wouldnt need huge tires and 8" of lift on a 1 ton truck, but I do so thats what I run. Trust me, Id love to only have 33-35" tires, they're cheaper and easier on my drivetrain and I wouldnt need to spend 1000.00 on lower gearing!!
 
Interesting and amusing thread.

How about everyone just does what works for them and everyone else just minds their own business?

What works for you won't work for everyone else so just leave them in peace.

Exactly...I'm the guy driving by in the big truck and I could care less what you think. Well I do a little bit because it's peep's like you who want to pass Nanny Laws to prevent fine upstanding people like me from buying my big truck.
 
LOL This thread is hilarious. I'll just add my two cents and be on my way.

I could get a car, or a small economic suv, but I'll have a damn hard time pulling my horse, and hay trailers.
My trailers would start wearing and tearing the hell out the driveline if I were using a small toyota for example. Also I'd be bogging down on any incline, I would get piss poor mileage, instead of the 16 I'm getting in front of a loaded trailer.

Also, God forbid, in a wreck, what would you feel safer in? A heavy duty 3/4 ton Dodge with steel bumpers, or a SmartCar.

Seriously, it's my choice of transportation, not yours. Screw off.
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
....Beef cows have a harder time flipping a fullsize truck upside down. Good enough reason as any.

Am I the only one that hops into a F350 Ex cab, Long bed, and thinks: "Wow, this truck is little." ?
After driving F550's, pay loaders, and 18 wheelers for a day or two a pickup feels tiny.

It's not like I'm planning on pulling a 25 travel trailer through Rome or anything.
 
You know my E350 superduty with a 7.3 on average gets 15 to 16 MPG and my wifes double cab 2wd Tacoma stock get 16 to 17 ? and the van is twice the weight and 3 times the vehical so Hmm

While I am no fan of full-size vehicles, the fuel mileage argument is a pretty poor one. At best my FZJ80 got 12mpg on a good day and I averaged about 10mpg. When I am getting the same mileage as a full-size truck pulling a trailer I have no right to criticize them for their choice.

That said, I still laugh at ridiculousness of all kind and I think there is a very clear destiction between say something like 1leglance's Suburban
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and say something which is all show and no go.
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corprin

Adventurer
My forehead hurts and keyboard is near broken from banging the two against each other reading this thread.... and I can't understand how it is continuing to be debated.

This is AMERICA! The land where we do what we want, when we want to, with little regard for those around us.

The guy I used to work with, driving the flashy full-sized truck with those vertical exhaust stacks seems silly to me. His habitual inability to maintain a single lane of travel is just asinine to me. His constant complaining about the prices of fuel because he only gets 12mpg on his 45mi commute was alloying to, you guessed it, me.

Far be it from me to call into question someone's motivation for the list of modifications they do on their vehicle. While I do point and laugh at vehicles I find silly, I do so knowing those I laugh at do the same to me, and frankly I don't care.

Live and let live.
 
ya....I don't know why people spend so much time trying to figure out why other people do the things they do instead of focusing on themselves and those that matter. Seems like a waste of time like this thread.
 

Deib

New member
Am I the only one that hops into a F350 Ex cab, Long bed, and thinks: "Wow, this truck is little." ?

I do have that problem. Even worse load up 2 adults, 4 kids, 2 dogs for a week vacation. Roof top carrier, cargo hitch carrier, stuff stacked so high you can't see out the window of a four door bronco and you you feel really small. Been thinking about building a 6 door.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Truck drivers in foreign lands want larger, more powerful vehicles, too. But in many countries the choice is between the midsize pickup (the Toyota HiLux, for example) and a cab over engine truck (say, the Mitsubishi Fuso). The full size pickup isn't an available option. Bring those same drivers to USA, and they'd buy an F150.
 

Mad Machinist

New member
To the OP,

I'll give you my perspective on this.

Some time ago, I sold one of those "dinosaurs" you are talking about. It was titled as a '87 Chevy SRW 1 ton with a transplanted 12 valve 5.9L Cummins. I built this vehicle from the ground up and have yet to see it's equal come from any factory. I built this truck for the simple fact that there is no company that builds what I want. This is the advantage of living here.

Now if I could get a diesel Toyota HiLux here in the States, I would be all over it. That would save me the money of putting a Cummins 3.3L ISB into a Chevy S-10. Considering the strangle hold the oil companies have here, a 40+ MPG mini-truck would be a real kick in the nuts.

Just remember, there are alot of us who would like to have the vehicles that many overseas have have, but can't due to "safety (read money)" regulations.
 

RMP&O

Expedition Leader
To the OP,

I'll give you my perspective on this.

Some time ago, I sold one of those "dinosaurs" you are talking about. It was titled as a '87 Chevy SRW 1 ton with a transplanted 12 valve 5.9L Cummins. I built this vehicle from the ground up and have yet to see it's equal come from any factory. I built this truck for the simple fact that there is no company that builds what I want. This is the advantage of living here.

Now if I could get a diesel Toyota HiLux here in the States, I would be all over it. That would save me the money of putting a Cummins 3.3L ISB into a Chevy S-10. Considering the strangle hold the oil companies have here, a 40+ MPG mini-truck would be a real kick in the nuts.

Just remember, there are alot of us who would like to have the vehicles that many overseas have have, but can't due to "safety (read money)" regulations.

Well said and welcome to the forum!
 

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