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  1. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Couldn't help but notice Expo's ads.. We've got a sailboat, adv bikes, Jeep, horse, and classic LRs. Doesn't look like glamping. There certainly is that side to Expo and some overlanding, but it's not my thing. Your air mattress, cast-iron, camp stoves, coolers, etc are all examples of...
  2. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    A two-door Jeep is a relatively rough ride, but should be perfectly usable. That Jeep sounds like a lemon or someone screwed it up.
  3. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    It's obvious this is your type of overlanding.
  4. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    No, why would I do that? It's too bumpy, my trail martinis get shaken not stirred, paint gets scratched, takes forever to wash the mud off, dust irritates my allergies, bugs enter open windows, man bun gets all dusty, can't find a bathroom or anywhere, Panda Express won't deliver to GPS...
  5. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Nothing wrong with a smooth ride, but good luck telling all the overlanders traveling the world in non air-suspension vehicles how "dumb" and "macho" they are. Maybe they should complain more to align with your type.
  6. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    They're harsh, but you get used to it, and at the end of the day still arrive at the destination. Back to Jeeps and trucks.. You're talking modern dual coil-sprung or leaf/coal sprung vehicles which are far better. Go test drive either setup. Ride quality is a non-issue.
  7. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    How much ride comfort does the average person need? Now how much comfort does an overlander, one who supposedly embraces discomfort, need? I've never once been so unsettled by even a (leaf-sprung) pickup truck to think "damn this thing is uncomfortable!" I guess it's just the state of mind that...
  8. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    An expansion? Agriculture, conversions, industry, military, NGO, municipal, off-roaders; all gone for good. No, the market for this one is people who know who Q-Tip is and buy REI vacations. Go spend some time on Defender forums to see what the existing markets think of it.
  9. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    A Wrangler is not for you. That's fine. However, one does not have to be uniquely discerning to see that the Wrangler offers features found in few vehicles. There is always compromise. The luxury Defender appears to have potential as an overlanding platform, but is not a one size fits all...
  10. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Their focus of the model is not safety, and that's fine. Buy a Volvo. Quote me. If you buy a classic vehicle, motorcycle, a car with low IIHS scores, etc, you assume the risk. Don't like it? Buy something else. You didn't ask me how many you passed on the way home. Let's see what you actually...
  11. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

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  12. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I don't know about you, but I'm five hours from a LR dealer already, and when out in the bush, no dealership has ever been of any help. If that keeps warranty concerned soccer moms from turning an INEOS into another Chelsea tractor, then so be it. We'll see what they do though.
  13. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Compare the safety features and energy absorption engineering. Night and day. It's not a Volvo, but a Volvo isn't an off-roader. Again, Toyota added several safety features to the 70 series, achieving 5-star ANCAP rating, without it becoming a fashion Land Cruiser. How do you reconcile that?
  14. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    You must understand that every product is a compromise on a spectrum of intended use. Compromise in one area allows strength in another. Do you not see the folly in expecting a vehicle to excel in all facets? Expecting a Wrangler to perform well in these tests is like expecting a Civic to...
  15. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I already highlighted what is known, and what is uncertain. Try to keep up. Again, my primary concern is the merit of the vehicle itself.
  16. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Yet you don't appreciate that the JL, and others, are far safer than an old Defender, while still being honest successors. It's possible to achieve modernity, simplicity, and relative safety, without completely abandoning everything but a name.
  17. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Looks are just the beginning of the disaster, but let's focus on that rear, because who doesn't? Also, FFS was it so hard to give it round lights? I'd expect no less of dandy McGovern. The next iteration, if there is one, will just completely give up and mirror an Evoque.
  18. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    It's the guy driving around in a "2010 Defender", on an Overlanding forum, claiming Jeeps are too dangerous.
  19. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    If the new Defender is a comfort oriented branch off the original, then it's a Discovery. If not, it's a DINO. INEOS will have to figure that out. I'm more concerned with the vehicle's merit on its own. As for your Series/Defender evolution comparisons.. It's never been more clear that the...
  20. EricTyrrell

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Do you carry UV lotion in your purse too?
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