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That is what caused the hawse to fail basically in this case.

Is everything rated in your recovery system? I think 'ratings' just make people feel better in one area while they ignore all the rest of the potential issues personally. The recovery points on most vehicles have no rating. The winch mount doesn't have a rating. The loop/eye on the cable/line...

There wasn't any 'wrong' winching in the situation I explained? The only unconventional aspect was using the vehicle to put pressure on the line prior to digging out the winch controller prior to a powered recovery to stabilize the vehicle. What parts did I propose that where not properly...

Does anyone have a link to the old G-wagon brochures and options somewhere squirreled away in PDF or pictures? I am specifically looking for tech information on the various commerical options available to increase payload and durability when used in an off-highway primary use. Tom Sheppard...

I have my fingers crossed too, but the rumor is that it will be 3500lbs. I'd love to see an increased 'payload' package avaliable also, or some kind of 'severe duty' upgrade similar to the J8 program. I suspect that the .gov and accountants would never let that happen, so we will just have to...

When you try hard stuff things happen. If you push your vehicle you will find weak links. Its easy to armchair and say he should have done something different. Personally, I would try to fix the root issue so you don't have to try and drive around it. Pulling line out may have worked, but it...

As a note. This thimble had a rubber pad on the back. The least amount of connections possible is generally the safest rigging system. Thimbles like this add another failure point to the system which seems a bit of a step backwards. I'm wondering if they didnt solve an issue that might not...

The vehicle survived a week of wheeling moab including Pritchett Canyon other than this failure....soooooo..... I blame this failure on the winch thimble. This design creates a ton of extra leverage on the hawse which can cause failure. Better material on the hawse could have helped, but having...

I generally agree, but many people are not aware of the issues that winch mounts like this pose. I like high tight and hidden winch mounts for clearance issues, but it does introduce some issues and challenges. Most vehicles these days just don't have a ton of space for a winch up front...

I agree that the thimble is causing issues. To be honest, I am just not a fan of the concept lately at all. To me, this was an interesting failure to see on the trail. I wouldn't say the driver was purposely abusing the vehicle or the thimble, but it seemed to take only one or two decent hits...

......oh boy...... This isn't my vehicle bud, this was just another person in the group I was with. The winch/bumper design tucked everything as close as practical to the radiator/core support area. There isn't anywhere else to mount the winch on this particular vehicle for much more clearance...

I don't think modern gasoline engines are THAT much less complex than modern diesel engines really. Direct injection requires basically the same very high pressure injection technology as a diesel CRD electronic injection system. Start/Stop technology is adding another layer of electronics...

Except in every other part of the world diesel powered vehicles are very very common. While they have been losing a little ground due to heavy emissions regulation, they still make up almost 40% of new vehicle sales. We just don't get the same options as the rest of the world. Euro and US...

This was an interesting failure on one a Toyota 4runner during my last trip to moab. The winch thimble was in a position where it was catching when trying to nose up on larger ledges and leveraging on the hawse when having to back off them. This eventually broke the hawse rendering the winch...

Some good info on the new AdvanTEK axle technology.

Exactly! In the Sport and Sahara I think the D44 rear with limited slip has been $600 alone!

The diesel package adds a 'sport/sahara' width Dana 44 front and rear. They are the same axle design as the Rubicon minus the lockers but about 1" narrower per side.

Most of the USA mid-size vehicles are just about the same. We just don't get any 'commercial' level upgrades for payload in the USA on vehicles like this sadly. Unofficially, the JK and JL have put in tons of miles on hard trails being VERY overloaded when just looking at the factory 'approved'...

I hear the payload is only going to be about 1200lbs just like the other JLU Wranglers. The JT is only officially 1400lbs if I remember right though. I'd love to see another option similar to the J8 program on the JK ( but honestly without the rear leaf springs. There vehicles are getting...

The rumor is that the Diesel JLU may get the updated nose and cooling package from JT program. The Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel had a 7000lb tow rating with a 110" wheelbase.