toyrunner95
Explorer
i know we didnt invent it, im talking about american aftermarket, all pro, bent up, marlin. unless they already do make stuff for them?
2006 Hilux Pictures - Tacoma Comparison
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DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
You already HAVE a Hilux. Just not a new one...toyrunner95 said:
toyrunner95
Explorer
i dont have a hilux! hilux's are reliable, nay dependable! rigid, tough, and awsome looking, i have a rustoleum red piece of crap that starts depending on what the weather is. but i will fix that soon enough muuuuhahahahahahahaha!
Martinjmpr
Wiffleball Batter
I'll be the fly in the ointment here and ask: What's so great about a Hilux? It looks pretty near identical to the Taco to me. Except for the diesel engine (which we can't get because of emissions regulations) I don't see the attraction, unless it's just a "grass is always greener" thing. If the Hilux had more manual features (windows, doors, T-case) than the Taco, I could see it as being a better expedition vehicle, but if you could get all those things in a Taco, wouldn't the Taco be just as good?
I think the 05-up Tacos are a little oversized, but from the photos, those Hiluxes look just as big.
I think the 05-up Tacos are a little oversized, but from the photos, those Hiluxes look just as big.
viter
Adventurer
do you guys realize that you can buy brand new Hilux in Mexico?
I've seen them there and even here in San Diego, CA with mexican plates.
now importing it might be costly and even impossible due to current us regulations on safety and environmental impact... but I don't know the details...
I've seen them there and even here in San Diego, CA with mexican plates.
now importing it might be costly and even impossible due to current us regulations on safety and environmental impact... but I don't know the details...
nickw
Adventurer
Hilux_Max said:And he's some more extreme ones -
Up one side of the hill and then a 62 degree drop down the other. It was done at a 4x4 training weekend with instructors teaching and showing us where the limits of our vehicles were in a controlled environment. Very helpful before heading out into the wild's.
They are a very good performer, very good suspension articulation aswell. Unfortunately we do not have the large scope of after market suspension modifixation that you do in the states for the Taco's.
We have suspension lifts and the like, but no long travel kits. The costs involved would mean they wouldnt sell too many.
Alot of our hilux's here are set up for touring the outback.
Killer truck! I love that color too-
Was that 4x4 training event put on my Toyota?
Clutch
<---Pass
I don't know fellas, I like the looks of our Tacoma better, their HiLux looks too car like...
Throw a diesel in the Tacoma and call it good.
Honestly, I think Toyota skrewed up with the current Tacoma offerings, too big, too plastic looking. I perfer the generation before that....now which generation is that?...Don't wanna get chastised...
Throw a diesel in the Tacoma and call it good.
Honestly, I think Toyota skrewed up with the current Tacoma offerings, too big, too plastic looking. I perfer the generation before that....now which generation is that?...Don't wanna get chastised...
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DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Thank you! I think the current Hilux looks pretty awful compared to the current Tacoma. I don't hate the current Tacoma, although I do think the sweet spot for Toyota trucks was 1989-1997. I don't care much for the flush headlight Tacoma and while I like the 84-88 trucks, I think the last US Hilux and early Tacomas just have the right look. I'm not much for the fender treatment on the current Tacoma, so if they touch that up like they did for the 4Runner in 2006, I think it would work. And like you say, offer a D4D in a more basic version, stick shift, manual transfer case, vinyl floors, bench seat. OK, maybe that ain't happen, but I can dream.Kermit said:I don't know fellas, I like the looks of our Tacoma better, their HiLux looks too car like...
Throw a diesel in the Tacoma and call it good.
Honestly, I think Toyota skrewed up with the current Tacoma offerings, too big, too plastic looking. I perfer the generation before that....now which generation is that?...Don't wanna get chastised...
Clutch
<---Pass
DaveInDenver said:
Your welcome.
Would be nice to hose them out, eh?
I like the 2001-04 grill over my '99. I was kicking around the idea of changing my to that, but, foolish to spend money on asthetics.
The other year would be the early Eighties HiLux, when they had round headlights, the round fender opens...oh yeah...good looking truck!
Yes, I know this the Trekker, the precurser to the 4Runner...but...the body style I like none-the-less.
Hilux_Max
Adventurer
yes that training day was put on by my department at Toyota.
anyway, my hilux has a thick vinyl floor, so Im happy with that. The dash is pretty basic and knob controls are manual.
The windows are powered, which I dont really care if they were or were not, thou I'd prefer manual windup version myself, for ease of fixing, less electrics and you get more knee room in the cabin without the stretched out arm rest on the door with the controls.
The hilux I beleive should have been a little bit more squared off in design, the curvy front design I think is to appeal to the asian buyers more so.
Aussies Ive spoken to all love the front design of the Tacoma's. My biggest issue with the front design of the hilux is the curves under the headlights and the grill, because when you fit a bullbar of any sort, you have to have plastic spacers to give you a straight edge. Check out the pics to see what I mean.
With the taco, the front is straight as and this helps you fit a higher approach angle bullbar.
Is it just me or is the Tacoma wheelbase longer than the hilux?
Looks like the Taco rear axle is closer to the back of the tray than the hilux one is?
anyway, my hilux has a thick vinyl floor, so Im happy with that. The dash is pretty basic and knob controls are manual.
The windows are powered, which I dont really care if they were or were not, thou I'd prefer manual windup version myself, for ease of fixing, less electrics and you get more knee room in the cabin without the stretched out arm rest on the door with the controls.
The hilux I beleive should have been a little bit more squared off in design, the curvy front design I think is to appeal to the asian buyers more so.
Aussies Ive spoken to all love the front design of the Tacoma's. My biggest issue with the front design of the hilux is the curves under the headlights and the grill, because when you fit a bullbar of any sort, you have to have plastic spacers to give you a straight edge. Check out the pics to see what I mean.
With the taco, the front is straight as and this helps you fit a higher approach angle bullbar.
Is it just me or is the Tacoma wheelbase longer than the hilux?
Looks like the Taco rear axle is closer to the back of the tray than the hilux one is?
Martinjmpr
Wiffleball Batter
cell4soul said:
Well, as I said, the lack of a diesel isn't because it's a Hilux vs a Tacoma, it's because of the cost of complying with our emissions regs. IOW, even if Toyota offered a Hilux in the US, it wouldn't have a diesel engine. So to me that's a wash.
As for the springs, I imagine that if the Taco has softer springs, it's probably because like most American trucks, it is empty most of the time and heavier springs would result in a harsher ride. Anyway, there are 80 thousand companies out there that offer aftermarket springs in whatever rate you want.
And as for the frame, is there any indication that the Taco frame is weak, or is that an assumption made on the basis of the fact that it's not fully boxed? What I'm saying is that if all other things are equal, a fully boxed frame is "stronger" than a c-channeled frame, but it's an assumption to think that all things are, in fact, equal. I don't know that they are. For example, if the Taco frame is made of thicker metal, or is larger overall, or is made of proportionally stronger metal, then it could be just as "strong" as the Hilux frame despite being a C-channel frame. I think most of the old LCs, jeeps and other rugged vehicles have traditionally had C-channel frames. And besides that, I haven't heard that Taco frames are known to be weak or to fail.
Interesting, too, what Hilux_Max said about Hilux owners in Oz liking the Tacoma more. Another case of "grass is always greener", I guess.
4Rescue
Expedition Leader
How are emissions regs of any concern??? THe d4d meets the new Euro regs as for as I knew. Meaning it will pass the new US standards. we don't get small diesel's "because American consumers don't want them..." funny how after all the crying out on alot of different web-boards and a trend towards favoing diesel's and VIOLA!!! Suddenly talk of small diesel's are creeping in all over.
I din't know about you, but the fully boxed fram is something I'd like to have just because tougher is tougher eh...
Leafs versus Coils, I'll take leafs for payload reasons and ease of lift. Control arms just add to the complexity of suspensions. Sure they ride better, but I have a truck, not a car, I'll sacrafice a little ride quality for durability.
Yes the grass is always greener, but that's over simplifying it. Look at the reat of the world and how Toyota markets things... To the rest of the world, toyotas are utlitarian and not always plush and comfy... you can get stripper models, tougher frames, locking diffs (in the LC's) 70 series LC's, and in general all of the things we AMericans go and add to our trucks here. American vehicles are on average, softer, comfier and full of all sorts of bells and whistles I don't want.
I din't know about you, but the fully boxed fram is something I'd like to have just because tougher is tougher eh...
Leafs versus Coils, I'll take leafs for payload reasons and ease of lift. Control arms just add to the complexity of suspensions. Sure they ride better, but I have a truck, not a car, I'll sacrafice a little ride quality for durability.
Yes the grass is always greener, but that's over simplifying it. Look at the reat of the world and how Toyota markets things... To the rest of the world, toyotas are utlitarian and not always plush and comfy... you can get stripper models, tougher frames, locking diffs (in the LC's) 70 series LC's, and in general all of the things we AMericans go and add to our trucks here. American vehicles are on average, softer, comfier and full of all sorts of bells and whistles I don't want.