2015/2016 New 3rd gen Tacoma Debut in Detriot

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The discussion on c channels has been done and beat. You're just late. Once again, c channel is not weak. I ask you why, every single heavy duty truck manufactured in the world is c channel and light duty trucks have boxed frames? So please stop bringing that up.


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Believe he was just pointing out that the rear of the Tacoma frame is a C-Channel...which is engineered to flex more than a boxed frame, thus making the ride a little smoother. In this case the Tacoma c-channel is weaker than its' brother the HiLux, hence the drastically different payload ratings.
 

toylandcruiser

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Believe he was just pointing out that the rear of the Tacoma frame is a C-Channel...which is engineered to flex more than a boxed frame, thus making the ride a little smoother.

"All the differences I see are related to improving ride comfort over the Hilux, at the expense of payload capacity. C-channel rear frame vs. boxed, outboard rear shocks vs. inboard/opposed..."

He mentioned expense of payload and improved ride and c channel. He is implying that c channel results in lower payload and improved ride.


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"All the differences I see are related to improving ride comfort over the Hilux, at the expense of payload capacity. C-channel rear frame vs. boxed, outboard rear shocks vs. inboard/opposed..."

He mentioned expense of payload and improved ride and c channel. He is implying that c channel results in lower payload and improved ride.


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Caught me in between edits...added more to my post above.
 

toylandcruiser

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Caught me in between edits...added more to my post above.

Sorry :)
Like I said before, our auto show is this weekend I hope there will be the new model there. I'll snap pics if it is. They are also supposed to have an LFA :D.


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bkg

Explorer
The discussion on c channels has been done and beat. You're just late. Once again, c channel is not weak. I ask you why, every single heavy duty truck manufactured in the world is c channel and light duty trucks have boxed frames? So please stop bringing that up.


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Let it go
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
The Tacoma frame is mostly boxed except the bed portion.
The current frame is boxed from the front bumper to approximately the firewall. It's 'C' along most of the length, although looks like double thickness along quite a bit of it. Your 1st gen Tacoma frame (that you show in the photo) was boxed up to approximately the front of the rear springs.

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bknudtsen

Expedition Leader
I ask you why, every single heavy duty truck manufactured in the world is c channel and light duty trucks have boxed frames? So please stop bringing that up.


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Calm down Captain C-channel. No need for you to police this thread of ideas that do not align with your own. You have made your point. I have chosen to ignore it, not because I agree/disagree, but because of your a**hat delivery style.
 

toylandcruiser

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Calm down Captain C-channel. No need for you to police this thread of ideas that do not align with your own. You have made your point. I have chosen to ignore it, not because I agree/disagree, but because of your a**hat delivery style.



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bkg

Explorer
The current frame is boxed from the front bumper to approximately the firewall. It's 'C' along most of the length, although looks like double thickness along quite a bit of it. Your 1st gen Tacoma frame (that you show in the photo) was boxed up to approximately the front of the rear springs.

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100% correct.

After installing AP HD sliders on my (now sold) 2010 - much stiffer feel to the truck, in a positive way.

Additional thought.. The more the frame flexes, the more stress is transferred to the box/body to absorb the stress of the flex...
 
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bknudtsen

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Believe he was just pointing out that the rear of the Tacoma frame is a C-Channel...which is engineered to flex more than a boxed frame, thus making the ride a little smoother. In this case the Tacoma c-channel is weaker than its' brother the HiLux, hence the drastically different payload ratings.

Correct. Payload capacity is dependent on many factors, only one of which is frame strength. Rear axle choice, shocks, springs, bed construction, etc.... All these come into play. I merely wanted to join in on your discussion on breaking down the differences between the two models, and discuss what effects those may have on the overall performance of the vehicle we have available to us in the US.
 

bknudtsen

Expedition Leader
The current frame is boxed from the front bumper to approximately the firewall. It's 'C' along most of the length, although looks like double thickness along quite a bit of it. Your 1st gen Tacoma frame (that you show in the photo) was boxed up to approximately the front of the rear springs.

Just put sliders on my rig this weekend. I'd say that on the DCSB, it's about a 1/3 boxed vs. 2/3 c-channel. And... of the c-channel, a good portion beneath the cab has a lip on the inboard side.
 

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