2015/2016 New 3rd gen Tacoma Debut in Detriot

calicamper

Expedition Leader
Dang clutch that was funny. Looks like he was on a stock Polaris, not like it would have helped if it was a full on race machine. I think the two brain cells he had before are now gone!!

Almost as bad as the kid jumping his dads new Ford Raptor and turning it into a Ford Banana Truck. ATV's and jetski's for some reason trigger the stupid gene in some people.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Almost as bad as the kid jumping his dads new Ford Raptor and turning it into a Ford Banana Truck. ATV's and jetski's for some reason trigger the stupid gene in some people.

Dang clutch that was funny. Looks like he was on a stock Polaris, not like it would have helped if it was a full on race machine. I think the two brain cells he had before are now gone!!

Here...hold my beer! LOL


That had to hurt.

Happy the internet and everyone having a camera phone didn't exist when I was younger... :ylsmoke:
 

toyotech

Expedition Leader
They are called parking brakes now. Not e brakes because too many people was using them in an "emergency" and getting into wrecks. Disc brake is plenty for a parking brake.

Toyota is be cheap till a new ground up taco is done.

Why change what worked for so many years? Because your paying more every year and I rather see upgrade old technology and not a new radio

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2025 deleted member

Well-known member
I had a healthy fear of my ATV, but the Sea-Doo I had seemed to always bring out my stupid gene. Lucky I never broke my neck on that thing.
Almost as bad as the kid jumping his dads new Ford Raptor and turning it into a Ford Banana Truck. ATV's and jetski's for some reason trigger the stupid gene in some people.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Why change what worked for so many years?
I dunno if you've had a lot of Toyotas, but this statement might well could be Toyota's corporate motto. They're a very conservative car company and honestly that is part of the reason I was drawn to them and have stuck with them. While the Big 3 and European makers constantly tinkered Toyota (and Honda, Nissan, etc. to some extent) kept dialing something in until it's right and then don't change until they have to. I was just helping a friend trouble shoot his electrical system and it occurred to me that for the 22R-E trucks Toyota's wiring harness is essentially identical from 1985 to 1995 across a generation change. Why should they change it? No reason, so they didn't. You could almost trouble shoot any truck from 1979 to 1995 with the same tools and books, more or less. Parts are interchangeable. Heck, the e-locker from a 2014 will fit into the housing for a 1979 with only the slightest of need to grind a small notch. They seem to get burned when they try something new and that becomes corporate policy, e.g. the U.S. lack of diesels. They didn't do well in ~1985 and that mentality /still/ makes them shy off trying again. OTOH, it took them 10 years to presumably fix the driveline vibration issues and of course they never really did totally solve the 3.0L headgasket issue, so going slow can cause a lack of response as well.
 
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Utah KJ

Free State of Florida
I dunno if you've had a lot of Toyotas, but this statement might well could be Toyota's corporate motto. They're a very conservative car company and honestly that is part of the reason I was drawn to them and have stuck with them. While the Big 3 and European makers constantly tinkered Toyota (and Honda, Nissan, etc. to some extent) kept dialing something in until it's right and then don't change until they have to. I was just helping a friend trouble shoot his electrical system and it occurred to me that for the 22R-E trucks Toyota's wiring harness is essentially identical from 1985 to 1995 across a generation change. Why should they change it? No reason, so they didn't. You could almost trouble shoot any truck from 1979 to 1995 with the same tools and books, more or less. Parts are interchangeable. Heck, the e-locker from a 2014 will fit into the housing for a 1979 with only the slightest of need to grind a small notch. They seem to get burned when they try something new and that becomes corporate policy, e.g. the U.S. lack of diesels. They didn't do well in ~1985 and that mentality /still/ makes them shy off trying again. OTOH, it took them 10 years to presumably fix the driveline vibration issues and of course they never really did totally solve the 3.0L headgasket issue, so going slow can cause a lack of response as well.

Actually, Toyota's motto is "kaizen" which means continuous small improvements. Toyota believes in this philosophy in their corporate culture and in their production. They are not a command and control kind of company and in production they believe that continuing improvements to standardization is the best way to maintain quality control. I worked for the company 1989 - 1991 and it was the best experience of my working life.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Actually, Toyota's motto is "kaizen" which means continuous small improvements. Toyota believes in this philosophy in their corporate culture and in their production. They are not a command and control kind of company and in production they believe that continuing improvements to standardization is the best way to maintain quality control. I worked for the company 1989 - 1991 and it was the best experience of my working life.
I actually served a manufacturing engineering internship at a Toyota injection molding plant way back in the summer of 1992, so I knew that.
 

toyotech

Expedition Leader
I dunno if you've had a lot of Toyotas, but this statement might well could be Toyota's corporate motto. They're a very conservative car company and honestly that is part of the reason I was drawn to them and have stuck with them. While the Big 3 and European makers constantly tinkered Toyota (and Honda, Nissan, etc. to some extent) kept dialing something in until it's right and then don't change until they have to. I was just helping a friend trouble shoot his electrical system and it occurred to me that for the 22R-E trucks Toyota's wiring harness is essentially identical from 1985 to 1995 across a generation change. Why should they change it? No reason, so they didn't. You could almost trouble shoot any truck from 1979 to 1995 with the same tools and books, more or less. Parts are interchangeable. Heck, the e-locker from a 2014 will fit into the housing for a 1979 with only the slightest of need to grind a small notch. They seem to get burned when they try something new and that becomes corporate policy, e.g. the U.S. lack of diesels. They didn't do well in ~1985 and that mentality /still/ makes them shy off trying again. OTOH, it took them 10 years to presumably fix the driveline vibration issues and of course they never really did totally solve the 3.0L headgasket issue, so going slow can cause a lack of response as well.

I used to work for Toyota as a tech and I seen my share of things. Motto or not. The 8 inch diff used in 1979 in todays trucks that weight at least twice as much if not more? wonder why they keep blowing up rear diff in the FJ cruiser.... (guys that actually used the elocker) I retro fitted an elocker into my 88 but im sure my runner doesnt weight near as much as todays vehicles using them. Tacoma even used a larger diff in the non elocker rear end (wonder why....)

the 3.0 headgasket issue was mainly to save money as they where changing body style from 89-90 and they went with a cheaper supplier for the gasket. my 88 3.0 still has its original HG with 235xxx miles on it. My 88 wasnt subject to the recall. Even with the recalls done on the ones affect the HG still went out shortly after on some.

If you want the best model toyota, buy the 1st or 2nd year they come out, sure they have bugs but less parts failures. when they release a new model, they opt for the best/expensive supplier, once the vehicle as been released and doing good, toyota will find a cheaper supplier for parts and that is where you will see more failed parts.

2007 tundra has a different rack and pinon part number than 2008+. when you try to order a 2007 tundra rack, it will superseed to the newer 2008+ number which has issues leaking. I not which later year did toyota finally either changed the supplier or design of the Rack but the newer tundras has less Rack failures.

OH when I was a Tech, I replaced countless numbers of water pumps... they always leak

not sure if the recalls in 2007 threw toyota in a mess and they started to lack in building quality vehicles or they use peoples mentality that its a toyota and they last forever so toyota already established its name and started to build things much cheaper.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
I used to work for Toyota as a tech and I seen my share of things. Motto or not. The 8 inch diff used in 1979 in todays trucks that weight at least twice as much if not more? wonder why they keep blowing up rear diff in the FJ cruiser.... (guys that actually used the elocker) I retro fitted an elocker into my 88 but im sure my runner doesnt weight near as much as todays vehicles using them. Tacoma even used a larger diff in the non elocker rear end (wonder why....)
The 8.4" added a bearing cap truss and uses a larger pinion shaft diameter, so the housing had to grow to accommodate. It's kind of the next generation V6 diff, which was stronger than the 4-cylinder. They all use the same 8" ring gear. I think the diff failures have more to do with flex in the housing, which has always happened with our axles. Guys have added trusses on crawlers forever because of that.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/228681-myth-settled-8-4-v6-4cyl-all-8-a.html
 

bkg

Explorer
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, Positive thoughts, Positive thoughts, Oh this is no good...

that last 1/1000 of a second results in what feels like a 45 minute internal dialog that ends with... "yup... I'm screwed... this is gonna hurt."
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
that last 1/1000 of a second results in what feels like a 45 minute internal dialog that ends with... "yup... I'm screwed... this is gonna hurt."

Kinda takes the concept of "Committed" to a higher level. LOL He may not have commitment issues but the hospital bills may be a problem. Ha ha
 

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