Let's put it this way, I was out on the snowmobile Saturday. Im in Thunder bay, but head east usually a few times a summer at least, my dad has a camp just west of Chapleau. He lives in Sudbury but I'm hoping he does more of a full time thing at camp and sells his place in Sudbury. Would allow me more of a commitment to be there with my wife and kids more often, after all, we are all getting older. I love the sultan haul road when I do go to Sudbury, I used to like to take it the whole way through shining tree when I was living in North bay, but the stretch from hwy 144 to new liskard is all chip seal now.