My 2010 is waaaaay better though............because it's paid for.
Mine may not be packed with technology, but it isn't packed with debt either. These trucks have gotten out of hand with their prices.
The ZR2 is going to be expensive for obvious reasons. It's really unfortunate though how limited the Diesel is in this platform. You can only get the engine in the Crew Cab configuration and in the higher trim levels. You basically can't get a Canyon/Colorado for under 40k MSRP. I looked at this truck quite a bit before getting my EcoDiesel, but the financials just weren't there. With Ram you can get their Diesel in the lower trim levels, I ended up with a Full Size for probably 5-7k less than the Canyon/Colorado have been. Some would argue the smaller platform is a much bigger advantage, but for my uses the Full Size was for me. Very cool truck and I'd love to have one, but I'd guess the ZR2 will come with a 50k + price tag. Really glad they are actually going to build the concept though and they aren't just designs sitting on the computer.The new Colorado sure has come a long way. I am jealous of the suspension setup. It is light years ahead of my torsion bar design.
My 2010 is waaaaay better though............because it's paid for.
Mine may not be packed with technology, but it isn't packed with debt either. These trucks have gotten out of hand with their prices.
The most recent news this week 33s are on it.
My 2010 is waaaaay better though............because it's paid for.
Mine may not be packed with technology, but it isn't packed with debt either. These trucks have gotten out of hand with their prices.
Ha! The thought I keep having is "I wonder how long I'll have to keep my paid-for car before I can afford one of these in the used market!!"
The ZR2 is going to be expensive for obvious reasons. It's really unfortunate though how limited the Diesel is in this platform. You can only get the engine in the Crew Cab configuration and in the higher trim levels. You basically can't get a Canyon/Colorado for under 40k MSRP. I looked at this truck quite a bit before getting my EcoDiesel, but the financials just weren't there. With Ram you can get their Diesel in the lower trim levels, I ended up with a Full Size for probably 5-7k less than the Canyon/Colorado have been. Some would argue the smaller platform is a much bigger advantage, but for my uses the Full Size was for me. Very cool truck and I'd love to have one, but I'd guess the ZR2 will come with a 50k + price tag. Really glad they are actually going to build the concept though and they aren't just designs sitting on the computer.
That is the nice thing about the Dodge, can be had in the contractor model...they dropped the ball on payload and towing though (like the Colorado). Why put in a work horse engine, when you can't do any work with it???
$50K is awful lot to spend to only being able to carry a ground tent and cooler....
I was out the door at 36k, but if you option up you can easily hit that number on a Ram too. From a lot of what I've seen is the low towing numbers is due to the cooling system, or lack thereof. The intercooler and radiator are stacked and not sized appropriately making it difficult for the engine to shed heat. The low towing is due to the fact the engine temperatures will climb at high loads and grades, causing the ECU to derate the engine. I will not be towing max ratings on tough inclines, so it's a non issue for me. On the payload issue, I can see the concern as well. Again my plans are to keep as close to this number as I can, but I'm sure I've accidentally been over before. I plan on getting a cap here soon and build a sleeping platform, so I will need to keep an eye on the payload for sure. I don't think it will be too big of an issue as long as you aren't crazy over the payload by hauling around huge pallets and whatnot. My main draw to the setup was the fuel economy; I have an average of 25 MPG across about 30k miles and on a highway trip I can easily get 28-30 MPG. It sure beats the 16-17 I'd get in my old 5.3L GMC.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-chevrolet-colorado-zr2-first-ride-review/
Looks like 265/65R17 => 31x10.50x17
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I've never bought a brand new vehicle from a dealer like that calicamper, but I did buy my Tacoma from a dealer. For used it helps to have the Internet as a baseline, even if Toyota and dealers are in collusion it's hard for them to argue against a 250 mile cars.com and Craigslist used search for a realistic price (which for me was about $2K lower than blue book). I had a fairly specific truck in mind so rarity actually did work against me (Access Cab, 6 speed stick) so I missed out on a couple, one private and one at a dealer. When I found this one I don't think they foresaw me writing them a check for the negotiated price. "No, actually, I'm not trading in my old truck and I don't need to talk to your financing guy."