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Once I discovered the joys of using a trailer...I rarely load things in the bed of my truck.
2019 Ford Ranger Taking Orders
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nickw
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Give the whole #humblebrag financial thing a rest man.....we get it. Everybody has a different financial situation, $50k may be a lot to you, it's not to some folks that get bonuses double that size 2x a year.
I always laugh at the $ to size comparison, reminds me of my crazy uncle whos #1 criteria for a restaurant is how much food he gets for his $, nothing else. Lots of folks spend more $ for things that are more USEFUL, like a midsize rig. It's not about physical size, it's about what fits in your garage, what you can park downtown, what get good mileage, what works for your needs, etc.
nickw
Adventurer
Zero issues here, I'm the same height, great ergonomics....
Clutch
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$50K isn't a lot to me. Our earth moving machines weren't what I would call exactly cheap. And we paid cash for them.
Some guys like to brag how much the spend others how little. This whole forum seems like a pissing contest of who can spend the most to live like a homeless person.
One of the wealthiest guys I know drives a 25 year old Camry and buys his shirts at thrift stores. He brags that he only pays 25¢ for shirts. The guy is worth millions, pays cash for his kid's college education.
Wife's dad is like that, he owns a farm, when we go out to dinner...he will rattle off what the price of beef is currently.
Guess I don't see the value in a midsize truck. If you can't fit a 1/2 ton truck where you can put a midsize, maybe the consumer who buys for the size of those trucks can't drive all that well. Gas mileage is about the same between the two...so not much of an argument there.
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nickw
Adventurer
Define "Value", its different for everybody.
Physics....using real world example of a F150 vs Ranger, both crew cabs, 20" longer truck takes up 20" more space, if you don't have 20" to spare, where does driving skill come into play? Why buy a bigger truck than you need? What happens when you want to go wheeling on a tight trail?
I think buying a truck based on physical "size" and not practicality nor usefulness says more about somebody than anything, wouldn't you agree
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Define "Value", its different for everybody.
Physics....using real world example of a F150 vs Ranger, both crew cabs, 20" longer truck takes up 20" more space, if you don't have 20" to spare, where does driving skill come into play? Why buy a bigger truck than you need? What happens when you want to go wheeling on a tight trail?
I think buying a truck based on physical "size" and not practicality nor usefulness says more about somebody than anything, wouldn't you agree
Of course it is. Me having my own business...I look at the best value for me, yours might be different. Wife's father did very well for himself over the years, retired now...but still always wheeling and dealing. If it is your blood it never leaves. Sorry that my constant looking for the best deal/value offends you. Just the way I was brought up.
Length-wise 20" isn't all the much. Track is roughly 5" difference between the two...if you can't fit that in a garage. Maybe you should of bought a bigger garage.
Hell we could fit a couple backhoes, trucks, forklifts, skidsteers in our warehouses that we used to own. Here plenty of people that can fit motorhomes in theirs. That seems like the new hot thing. 2-3 car garage plus one for the RV.
nickw
Adventurer
Of course it is. Me having my own business...I look at the best value for me, yours might be different. Wife's father did very well for himself over the years, retired now...but still always wheeling and dealing. If it is your blood it never leaves. Sorry that my constant looking for the best deal/value offends you. Just the way I was brought up.
Length-wise 20" isn't all the much. Track is roughly 5" difference between the two...if you can't fit that in a garage. Maybe you should of bought a bigger garage.
Here plenty of people that can fit motorhomes in theirs. That seems like the new hot thing. 2-3 car garage plus one for the RV.
I'm not offended, but there are (3) pages of you going on and on about not spending money and thinking the ranger is over-priced, nobody cares, it get's old and tough to scroll through the thread for any quality content.
20" and 5" is significant. Why not just buy a stripped down gas F250 at that point if you wan't "more" truck, they are not that much more than a F150 and you get a hell of a lot more truck if you value assessment is Weight, Size and Capacity which seems to be where your head is....
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Shoot, it annoys me to no end! Would be so nice to be able to lay down $50K on that Ranger, but my guilt for spending that much on a little truck would drive me nuts. Just not wired that way. As you said $50K isn't that much money in big the scheme of things, but don't think the Ranger is worth $50K. Half that seems like a better number to me for a little truck to run around in. YMMV
That millionare with the 25 year old Camry is a financial adviser. We were talking one day about how cars are simply commodities, he asked me why anyone would spend a lot money on something that would only depreciate. Told him your guess is a good as mine. Believe it is more about social status than anything.
I admire guys who have a lot of financial success, yet don't flaunt it.
Not really in the big scheme of things. How many times would having something bigger effect me and where I go....never. Years ago I went from a F250 to little Toyotas, the F250 fit everywhere the Toyota did...the garage, around town...even exploring out in the boonies. The parking lot at my business is a touch on the tight side. I see clients put 3/4-1 ton CCLB in the same parking space as the Tacoma guys do.
You're right the F250 is a better buy, get a little nicked on fuel consumption, and that is about all. That $15-20K you save buying the $30K 3/4 Ton over the $50K Ranger buys a Hell of a lot of fuel. That and the 3/4 Ton is built so much heavier, imagine if you treat it like Mid-size should last you damn near forever.
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FordGuy1
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Its funny how many compare trucks, what they cost, what you get for the money. Hands down, that stock Ranger out wheels and out performs the F-150 off-road. Working for a dealer group with 19 dealerships, and running 6 of them, I have access to a lot of vehicles. I had access to a Demo Ranger that I beat the crap out of, and hands down, its way better in every way on the trail. Its also a hell of a lot more fun to drive off road than a F-150.
Todd780
OverCamper
I feel sorry for whoever is sold that truck.
Clutch
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It is all relative. Go run a SXS down the same trails...can almost guarantee you'll have more fun and it will be faster. You can pound on those things like a dirt bike, where you would destroy the Ranger trying to do the same thing.
If you are running a lot tight gnarly trails, probably better off buying something that was built specifically for it.
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FordGuy1
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Buliwyf
Viking with a Hammer
Off road?
F750 < F350/250 < F150 < Ranger < Yj < DRZ400 < Ktm EXC500. Smaller is nearly always better. But a DRZ can't go on the hwy or tow a trailer.
Besides, what narrow trails? F350, F150, Jeep, and the Ranger, are all the exact same darn size. What size is that? Too big for any trails around here.
F750 < F350/250 < F150 < Ranger < Yj < DRZ400 < Ktm EXC500. Smaller is nearly always better. But a DRZ can't go on the hwy or tow a trailer.
Besides, what narrow trails? F350, F150, Jeep, and the Ranger, are all the exact same darn size. What size is that? Too big for any trails around here.
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Pretty much my thinking.
As I said in another thread...this past Monday ran into a Rancher in a stock Ram 3500 CCLB out riding dirt bikes. I says to him. "That thing is a little big for out here, ain't it!?"
He spouts back "Only if you're a wimp!"
It was all dented to Hell... ha ha!
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FordGuy1
Adventurer
Don't disagree, but that's not really a comparison. It would be like me comparing a SXS to Class 1 car.