2022 Ford F550 - DIY - Adventure Expedition Vehicle Build Thread

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
Paint & Fairing/Body Work

So, I called about 35 auto body/paint shops, across the board (car, truck, commercial, RV, tractor trailer, boat, etc.), throughout the greater Boise area, and I could not find a single shop that was willing to take this project on, paint and/or body work. I'm not kidding, about 35. I even called paint supply houses for referrals and also called about half of the original 35 shops back to ask if they knew of anyone who does side work. Three people who do commercial/tractor trailer side work came out, they all stated they needed/wanted work, and they didn't even want to take on the project. I even put an add up on Craigslist and did not get a single response.

BONKERS!! Spending this much time: on the phone, sending emails with the scope of the project/pictures to this many shops, meeting with people and following up with many of the shops, etc. was like a part time job.

I finally said screw it and just started doing the fairing/body work myself to keep the build moving. This was something I was thinking about/hoping to sub out so I could make up some time on the project. I'm guessing that doing this much fairing/body work, by myself, the outside and inside of the camper, will probably take me around two and a half to three months. NUUUUUUUUUUUUTS.

After letting the dust settle for two-three weeks, I called back two of the commercial shops that originally came out and looked at the project, but said they were not interested. I kind of befriended the two gentlemen who came out. I asked them for their honest feedback on why they were not interested in the project (if they were comfortable being that direct with me) especially when they were recommended by so many of the other paint/body shops for doing projects just like/similar to mine. Bottom line, they did not want to do that much body work. Many of the other shops I called were intimidated by the composite construction, carbon fiber and epoxy.

Soooooo, I am eating one big fairing/body work sandwich for the next three months. And we are not talking about the 40 hour work week kind of schedule. This is the seven days a week 10-14 hours a day schedule. Not to mention that I am using marine based epoxy fairing compound, which requires me to be in head to toe PPE equipment. Nothing like long-block sanding in a hooded Tyvek suite (or should I say plastic garbage bag sweat suit) for 10-14 hours each day. That's the bad news.

The good news is, once I told the two paint shops that I had already started on the body work and I would be doing it myself, they were more than happy to bid the project. The irony is, I already stated I would do the body work if needed in my original emails and phone calls. BONKERS!!

Three solid months of body work right after the grind of composite work I have been on for over a year does not have me in the greatest of spirits.

I share this as info in case you are on a similar journey. If you happen to be on the east and/or west coast, I would start with all of the boat shops first. They will have much more experience, comfort level and willingness to take on a composite project and possibly one of this size if they work on larger boats/yachts.

I am digging deeper than deep inside myself to crank out this fairing/body work. A bit of compartmentalization and disassociation is going on to make it all happen o_O 🫥.

Enough talking, let's get to work!

This is basically what a lot of the professional boat/yacht builders use for their epoxy based fairing material. The camper shell loves it, but my pocket book does not.
IMG_9533.jpeg

Let the punishment begin.
IMG_9532.jpeg

I'm mostly using a long sanding block and a 17" sanding block for sanding all of the fairing compound.

Structural sand and sanding for the first layer of fairing compound.
IMG_9610.jpeg

First layer going down to feather the tabbing into the field of the panels/side walls. I decided to go with 8" on the width (8" drywall knife), so after it was sanded back/feathered in, it would result in about a 6-7" wide transition. This would give plenty of width to taper/transition the tabbing into the field of the panel.
IMG_9613.jpeg
IMG_9614.jpeg

Sanding the first layer and marking everything that needs to be filled/faired during the second coat
IMG_9625.jpeg
IMG_9626.jpeg

Working my way around the camper
IMG_9661.jpeg
71398741819__D8810C97-CE7A-428B-9EA4-ED5BF43229BE.jpeg
71398735256__22F7B4E2-0705-4D27-AE96-F46B91214C0B.jpeg
 
Last edited:

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
Fairing/Body Work - Continued ......

Second coat going down
71398728323__00497222-DFDB-4426-B925-7FE9F82CC271.jpegIMG_9680.jpegIMG_9679.jpegIMG_9683.jpeg

The bottom edge of the camper will be faired out after the fairings/skirts are bonded to the camper.

Sanding the second coat and prepping for the last little touch ups needed for a spot fill 3rd coat.
IMG_9706.jpeg

Transitions like this, SUCK!
IMG_9705.jpeg

I don't even want to tell you how many hours I have into the gear locker
IMG_9707.jpeg
IMG_9709.jpeg
IMG_9710.jpeg

The GOOD news is I'm on track for this thing to look like it came out of a mold (y). The BAD news, the amount of hours it takes to make something as smooth as you need it to look like it came out of a mold (n).

Hopefully I will have the remainder of the outside of the camper sanded and the third spot fill coat applied and sanded by the weekend (except for the bottom edge).

My reward for all of this hard work you ask? Well thanks for asking! My reward is getting to start this process all over again on the inside of the camper 😳:confused::poop:. And........., the inside will probably take two weeks longer than the outside and will also be way more of a pain because all of the cabinets and shelves (super small/tight spots) I will have to work in.

Who loves body work?

Until next time!
 

ITTOG

Well-known member
It is looking great so if nothing else I hope you have a great amount of satisfaction in the job you are doing. I am starting to think you must be a little crazy taking on such a large project. ;) It should definitely be one of a kind.

Thanks for sharing. I have learned a lot from your thread. The most important learning is I will never do a job like this!
 

DzlToy

Explorer
Save your time, money and sanity and spray the whole thing with Aliphatic Polyurea. No, it won't look as good as a professional paint job, but you are covering the carbon with paint, which is subject to scratches, UV damage and so on, so why not protect the composite panels? I don't think anything approaching a professional paint job is expected on a camper or RV of any kind, short of a Newell motorcoach.

$0.02
 

The Artisan

Adventurer
Fairing/Body Work - Continued ......

Second coat going down
View attachment 796165View attachment 796167View attachment 796166View attachment 796168

The bottom edge of the camper will be faired out after the fairings/skirts are bonded to the camper.

Sanding the second coat and prepping for the last little touch ups needed for a spot fill 3rd coat.
View attachment 796170

Transitions like this, SUCK!
View attachment 796169

I don't even want to tell you how many hours I have into the gear locker
View attachment 796171
View attachment 796172
View attachment 796173

The GOOD news is I'm on track for this thing to look like it came out of a mold (y). The BAD news, the amount of hours it takes to make something as smooth as you need it to look like it came out of a mold (n).

Hopefully I will have the remainder of the outside of the camper sanded and the third spot fill coat applied and sanded by the weekend (except for the bottom edge).

My reward for all of this hard work you ask? Well thanks for asking! My reward is getting to start this process all over again on the inside of the camper 😳:confused::poop:. And........., the inside will probably take two weeks longer than the outside and will also be way more of a pain because all of the cabinets and shelves (super small/tight spots) I will have to work in.

Who loves body work?

Until next time!
Great build but you did all the nice carbon and now you are painting it? With all the infusion do you have that many flaws that is noticeable? Seems like a overkill of your time for layers of paint and clear on camper that will get scratched eventually
Kevin
 

rruff

Explorer
The only crapper is, I will only be able to use them for lifting the camper before the fairings/skirts are bonded to the camper. After that, I will have to figure out another way to lift the camper.

I made beams to bridge across those jacks, side to side. If your fairings cover your wheelwells, maybe make that part removeable? Fine tune the CG with weights.
 

trackhead

Adventurer
Maybe finish outside, paint it, mount it, get some "not-so-instant" gratification, then finish the inside? Your patience is admirable, as is you dedication.
 

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
It is looking great so if nothing else I hope you have a great amount of satisfaction in the job you are doing. I am starting to think you must be a little crazy taking on such a large project. ;) It should definitely be one of a kind.

Thanks for sharing. I have learned a lot from your thread. The most important learning is I will never do a job like this!
Thanks.

It is a ton of work and a certain amount of insanity is definitely involved.

I would not recommend a project like this to anyone who would be primarily doing it solo.

Onwards.
 

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
Save your time, money and sanity and spray the whole thing with Aliphatic Polyurea. No, it won't look as good as a professional paint job, but you are covering the carbon with paint, which is subject to scratches, UV damage and so on, so why not protect the composite panels? I don't think anything approaching a professional paint job is expected on a camper or RV of any kind, short of a Newell motorcoach.

$0.02
I'm with you on an alternative to paint (on the outside) that would hold up to scratches better. I've already been considering a few options. The inside however, will need paint.

Unfortunately aesthetics are super important to me, so if a coating is used, it will still need to look good and be professionally done. Form and Function.
 

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
Great build but you did all the nice carbon and now you are painting it? With all the infusion do you have that many flaws that is noticeable? Seems like a overkill of your time for layers of paint and clear on camper that will get scratched eventually
Kevin
Hey Kevin,

The carbon was always going to be painted. It is similar to Earthroamer and Truckhouse, they paint and/or coat their carbon/composite for UV protection, scratches, etc.

Yes, I infused flat panels, but the majority of my body work is on the corners/joints. This is where all the tabbing needs to be transitioned into the field of the flat/infused panels.

Time, and lots of it. This is the price you pay if you go composite and want it to look professional.
 

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
I made beams to bridge across those jacks, side to side. If your fairings cover your wheelwells, maybe make that part removeable? Fine tune the CG with weights.
You just saved me some time (👌:love:!) with the idea of using weights to get my CofG within the wheel wells after the fairing are installed.

The backside of my wheel wells will be open, and should be wide enough for two cross supports, so I can continue to use the Brophy Jacks after the fairings are installed.

Thanks for tagging along with the build thread and chiming in with helpful info 😁!

How is your build coming along?
 

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
Maybe finish outside, paint it, mount it, get some "not-so-instant" gratification, then finish the inside? Your patience is admirable, as is you dedication.
Thanks, but unfortunately that would just create some logistic pain in the butts for me and make it more difficult for the paint shop.

Although, I do have a vacation planned to get a little break from the build, which should hopefully provide a bit of a reset.
 

Vance Vanz

Well-known member
My Build Standard/Bench Mark:

Hey All,

Maybe I have not specifically said this, but I thought it would be important to do so.

My build standard, or the bench mark that I am shooting for, is that of Earthroamer and TruckHouse. This is the quality and finish I am going for in all aspects. These are the only two builders I have seen that are in-line with the build quality and aesthetics that resonate with me.

Of course, I will not have every component and system an Earthroamer has. My composite shell will not be as detailed/uniquely contoured as theirs.

However, all of the materials, components, systems, etc. that I do choose, will be professional/marine grade. The finish on everything, inside and out, will be professional quality-Earthroamer/TruckHouse-ish finish.

If there is something I can't do myself, so its function and form is that of what would come out of a professional shop (Earthroamer/TruckHouse), then I have a professional shop do it.

Yes, this takes an INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE amount of time, especially when you are doing a majority of the work yourself. This will also cost a substantial amount of money. This is the price you have to pay if/when you are shooting for this type of build standard.

This is also why I was hesitant to put DIY in the title of my build thread. I am making a generalization here, but when we often hear DIY, we don't think of professional grade/quality in every aspect of the build.

The only reason I share this, is because when things get hard, harder and even insanely F-ING hard on the build, I am going to do everything I can to maintain this standard of quality.
 
Last edited:

rruff

Explorer
How is your build coming along?
I got the camper mounted to the truck a couple weeks ago, and took it on a trip. Still a lot to do, but so far so good. The poly isolator pivot system seems to work well. I'm trying to figure out how to use the ridiculous amount of space underneath the camper, particularly at the front.
Camper_01-.jpg

Man, I nearly dumped the camper on the ground at one point when I had it ~50" in the air! My tires stick out a little farther than the camper, so I made extensions for the mounting points on the jacks... but that didn't work at all. Very unstable! Making two beams (pairs of 2x4s screwed together) to go across worked great though.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
188,356
Messages
2,905,843
Members
230,117
Latest member
greatwhite24
Top