98 Jeep ZJ "SHTFV"

Recce01

Adventurer
Check out the stock tire carrier of a downsized Chevy Blazer or GMC Jimmy, late 90's era. They have a latch very similar to the one the OP used.
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That actually looks extremely familiar!! Good find :)

Those bumpers are amazing. I'll take one of each, Please Sir, make me another?
HAHA! I am working on it, likely a few months away if it happens. Thank you very much for the compliment!
 

jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
So I feel bad about thread stealing so I'm gonna start a seperite thread to hope I can find a part number... Sorry Reece. *blush*
 

Recce01

Adventurer
So I feel bad about thread stealing so I'm gonna start a seperite thread to hope I can find a part number... Sorry Reece. *blush*

haha... no worries, I appreciate engaging in conversation. This is the purpose of a good forum, to see what others have done and how they did it. Sharing ideas and posting options for everyone to see is how everyone learns a little more than they knew the day before :)
 

Recce01

Adventurer
Hi All! It has been a little while since I have done an update. I have been busy and extremely broke as of late. We saved for a year to get the Jeep to where it is now. Kinda funny actually, save for a year, and do all the work in one month. I have been trying to fire some random items from around the house on Ebay to build up the Jeep fund. I wanted to share the latest purchases as well as a little project that became a serous riddle for me. First, the new goodies.... I am not entirely sure what I am going to do with these yet, but I couldn't pass up a good buy on them

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I managed to find 6 water cans and 2 hard to find fuel cans. The fuel cans were used and sent to me from another member on Portal, and the water cans were new. I paid $75 each for the fuel cans, and $25 each for the water cans.

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Do you think this means the government can just take these from you at will?

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I am hearing these are illegal to use in California, but I refuse to use those crappy CARB approved versions. Anyone ever get any grief from the law while on the trail in Californai with these cans?

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xjman88

Adventurer
Your zj is lookin good man. I like the rear bumper/tire carrier. I need to build one as well. Nice to see it out being used. Ill continue to follow your build up. I am hoping to get my sliders and belly skid on tomorrow. Pics will be up when its complete.
 

Recce01

Adventurer
Micro Switch Riddle

There is something that has been bothering me about my ZJ from day one. We, for some reason, have not ever been able to open the rear glass on the rear hatch. There was some sort of electrical drama keeping it from functioning. I brought the Jeep into Temecula to see an old friend at Audio Evolution. These guys not only do some incredible stereo work, but they are also masters at tracking down gremlins in the wiring system. He belongs to a website that he can get specific wiring diagrams for every vehicle ever made. He looked up the specific model ZJ I have and had the complete schematic printed and on hand for the inspection. I removed the rear panel from the hatch and stripped off the rubber sheet to get access to the wiring harness. He brought out a high tech polarity tester and started testing the function of every solenoid and switch in the rear system. We narrowed the problem down to a little tiny micro switch. This switch is what tells the hatch that the doors are unlocked and that it is ok for the rear glass switch to work.

I went over to the Jeep dealership and was promptly informed that the micro switch I was in need of was going to cost me a cool $120. After discovering that the $120 switch did not include a little private dance time with a struggling college girl with daddy issues, I elected to pass on the purchase. I received a call about a week later fom Audio Evolution stating that they had come up on an extra micro switch that I could have to repair it myself. I stopped by and picked up the new switch

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I immediately rolled home and ripped into the hatch

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The switch itself is located on the door handle mechanism

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After a little fiddling around I managed to get the door handle out of the rear hatch and on to the bench

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Here is the back side of it with this little gold plated diamond studded micro switch with 2 wires and a plug

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As you can see the switch I have to replace it with is quite different

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That means I need to make my own bracket to hold the new switch in place. I decided to make it out of some .063 sheet metal. The plan was to make the switching happen in the same location with the new switch just mounted in the necessary location to make thsat happen.

I started by measuring and cutting a rectangle

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I wanted it to mount in the same location, so I transfered the hole locations

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I then bent the bracket like the original bracket

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Now I just had to mark the locations of the holes on the new switch and bolt it in. This was drama because I didnt feel like doing crazy perfect measurements and didn't have a small enough ink pen to mark the holes, so I busted out an old trick. I spray painted black into a towel and dipped the opposite end of a drill bit in the paint, then used it as a marker

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It worked perfectly!

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The last step was to drill the holes and prepare for mounting

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Recce01

Adventurer
On to the riddle!

I quickly mounted up the switch to the bracket and prepared it to go back in the Jeep

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I made quick workl of the wiring and hjad it ready to rock

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At last, the handle was back in the hatch and I was able to test it

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For the first time ever (for us) the hatch was open!! Of course the struts had to be dead :(

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I was so proud of myself for figuring out how to save the $120 I didn't have, and that I figured out how to make the wrong switch work. I proceeded to pick up and put away all the tools and prepared to head in the house for the night. I hit the lock button on the remote, and it was already locked??? So I tested the glass hatch and it opened. I then unlocked the Jeep, and the glass hatch would not open!!!!! I about blew a gasket. Yep, the switch was oppopsite of the factory switch, meaning it would not work in its current state :(

I immediately ripped it back apart to figure out how if possible to make it work. I noticed that there was a lip on the handle bracket that I may be able to use to fix the issue, I would just have to space the switch over 20MM. I found some spacers from my RC collection of goodies and started trying to solve my issue

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These seemed like they would work perfect to space the switch over

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No all I had to do was grind the contour in the lip on the bracket to activate the switch on the correct side this time

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It seemed to work, and work quite well!!

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In the end, it worked flawlessly, and as it was intended to work with the glass hatch opening when the doors are unlocked!

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Note to self, if it takes 6 hours of your time to do, and if you make over $20 per hour, it is way more effecient to just buy the damn switch. Oh well, I learned a thing or 2 through this process. :ylsmoke:
 

JakeC

Member
Great work on your bumpers and roof rack. I think everyone's quite envious of the rear tire carrier.

I think ZJ hatches are a bit finicky. Mine just started having this fit where while I'm driving at night, the VIC will flash that the rear hatch is open and the lights will flash on and off depending on how many bumps in the road there are. (Needless to say, I gutted the rear hatch. Unplugging just about anything I could unplug). Gotta love ZJ's. Haha.
 

jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Good job keeping that spoiled and over paid/under worked harlot of a stealership out of the loop! :) 120 bucks for a switch that probably costs about 17 cents to make in China, Bah!
I don't suppose you could have just reversed the wiring on the switch when it was opening backwards could you? Love the out sourced Hobby parts...lol!
And yeah... We ALL LOVE your swing out bumper! *drool*
 

K2ZJ

Explorer
I don't suppose you could have just reversed the wiring on the switch when it was opening backwards could you?

I thought that at first but it is just a two pole switch so the pass through on the electricity would be the same no matter how it was wired. You need a third pole to pass though while it is open.
 

Recce01

Adventurer
Great work on your bumpers and roof rack. I think everyone's quite envious of the rear tire carrier.

I think ZJ hatches are a bit finicky. Mine just started having this fit where while I'm driving at night, the VIC will flash that the rear hatch is open and the lights will flash on and off depending on how many bumps in the road there are. (Needless to say, I gutted the rear hatch. Unplugging just about anything I could unplug). Gotta love ZJ's. Haha.

Thank you, and yes.... the one major drawback to the ZJ is it's electronic monitoring which = Fail

Good job keeping that spoiled and over paid/under worked harlot of a stealership out of the loop! :) 120 bucks for a switch that probably costs about 17 cents to make in China, Bah!
I don't suppose you could have just reversed the wiring on the switch when it was opening backwards could you? Love the out sourced Hobby parts...lol!
And yeah... We ALL LOVE your swing out bumper! *drool*

I tried this straight away, believe me, I wasn't in the mood to do it all over again :)

I thought that at first but it is just a two pole switch so the pass through on the electricity would be the same no matter how it was wired. You need a third pole to pass though while it is open.

exactly, I think, all I know is I needed to make it opposite as it was.

Your a bad influence, you know. :)

HAHA! We all expect to see a build thread out of you!!
 

Recce01

Adventurer
White LED Modules 3 volts each so two in series will work on 6 volts. Blue and green square led lights also use 3 volts.

Red, orange and yellow LED's use 2 volts so three is series will work.

LED's are more efficient than incandescent lamps so it won't take many to be as bright as a 3 watt lamp.

Very cool! And perfect timing too. I am just getting set to put the wiring system together and add the aux lighting. Thanks for the info, I am hoping to get some rock lights going in the midst of the wiring project, I will have to see if I have the time and resources to do it at the same time. Thanks very much for the info!!
 

Recce01

Adventurer
A little extra reach for the SHTFV

I have been working on something for the last year in my spare time, and I wanted to share it with you. I have been slowly gathering parts to make a tool that I can take on the road and pull out when I want to see things from a different perspective. This a new machine that I am still trying to work the bugs out of to include the pilot which probably needs the most work... LOL. Best to swallow a dramamine, turn your speakers down and watch in "HD". This is raw footage as it came out of the camera.

 

SquareLJ

Observer
I have been working on something for the last year in my spare time, and I wanted to share it with you. I have been slowly gathering parts to make a tool that I can take on the road and pull out when I want to see things from a different perspective. This a new machine that I am still trying to work the bugs out of to include the pilot which probably needs the most work... LOL. Best to swallow a dramamine, turn your speakers down and watch in "HD". This is raw footage as it came out of the camera.


That's awesome. I noticed that you were wearing what appeared to be a HUD. Are you able to see the feed in real time? Do you have any plans for stabilization?
 

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