Another Chassis Conundrum????

I second Victorian’s comments except for one thing.
Mercedes dealers in the US are useless for non USA trucks, or even the U500NA which was sold here from 03 to 06. Aggravating, since it’s no problem for Canadian MB dealers. The U500NA was sold by Freightliner in both countries and I got mine new from an equipment dealer “Quality Equipment Sales” walking distance from my house that sells school buses, snowplows, etc. Somehow they got the franchise in Anchorage.
However even a Canadian MB dealer would need to order the part, not keep it in stock.
Fortunately, I can get virtually any part from Merex (a well known MB dealer that only sells and services Unimogs - there’s many such dealers in the EC especially Germany) in a very few days, delivered to my doorstep.
Similar arrangements can be made with a MB truck dealer that does all MB truck variants if you live in the US rather than Canada.
Regarding billiebob’s comments, my perspective is that my vehicle has lots of electronics but virtually no emissions add-ons except EGR. Not unexpectedly my only “modern diesel” failure was the EGR which currently is about 30’ from the vehicle. Otherwise the electronics have been literally 100% reliable over 14.5 years and 100k miles. I do carry multiple spares including sensors, ECU, and even computer modules. Also a Mercedes Star laptop system. All so far un-needed.
I am not worried about traveling with an electronic engine with my spare parts. I would be quite worried, however, if the vehicle required DEF and had SCR, DPF etc. Especially re long trips in high sulfur countries. But they seem to fail a lot even at home.
 
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ScottPC

Active member
I‘d say the F550 with the 7.3 gasser is at the top of my list. Agreed, I’m always shifting to 4x4 on the fly, especially in/out of snow packed roads. And yes, it is nice to be able to drive at 70+ sometimes.

Does anybody have a link to an international Ford dealer locator? My brief search turned up nothing.
I see you're in CO, I'm just next door. Snow flake tires and AWD / 4WD make a huge difference for sure. Here's a Global locations Ford link I found for starters...looks like it takes you to other links in respective countries: https://corporate.ford.com/operations/locations/global-links.html
 
I see you're in CO, I'm just next door. Snow flake tires and AWD / 4WD make a huge difference for sure. Here's a Global locations Ford link I found for starters...looks like it takes you to other links in respective countries: https://corporate.ford.com/operations/locations/global-links.html


That is super helpful, thanks. I'll contact a few dealers to see how long (taken with a heaping grain of salt) parts for a US spec F550 take to get in.

Yes, I need 4x4 in the winter just to make it up the driveway!
 

Joe917

Explorer
I second Victorian’s comments except for one thing.
Mercedes dealers in the US are useless for non USA trucks, or even the U500NA which was sold here from 03 to 06. Aggravating, since it’s no problem for Canadian MB dealers. The U500NA was sold by Freightliner in both countries and I got mine new from an equipment dealer “Quality Equipment Sales” walking distance from my house that sells school buses, snowplows, etc. Somehow they got the franchise in Anchorage.
However even a Canadian MB dealer would need to order the part, not keep it in stock.
Fortunately, I can get virtually any part from Merex (a well known MB dealer that only sells and services Unimogs - there’s many such dealers in the EC especially Germany) in a very few days, delivered to my doorstep.
Similar arrangements can be made with a MB truck dealer that does all MB truck variants if you live in the US rather than Canada.
Regarding billiebob’s comments, my perspective is that my vehicle has lots of electronics but virtually no emissions add-ons except EGR. Not unexpectedly my only “modern diesel” failure was the EGR which currently is about 30’ from the vehicle. Otherwise the electronics have been literally 100% reliable over 14.5 years and 100k miles. I do carry multiple spares including sensors, ECU, and even computer modules. Also a Mercedes Star laptop system. All so far un-needed.
I am not worried about traveling with an electronic engine with my spare parts. I would be quite worried, however, if the vehicle required DEF and had SCR, DPF etc. Especially re long trips in high sulfur countries. But they seem to fail a lot even at home.
Yes, the USA has the worst dealer support for Mercedes trucks. The USA also has the fastest cheapest shipping. Once you learn where to source parts it is not an issue. There are a couple of parts suppliers in North America with common Mercedes engine parts on the shelf. Companies like Pacific Power Group have access to the EPC and can order parts from Germany very reasonably.
 
I agree in general. Pacific Power Group even keeps engine parts in stock unless they are U500 specific.
But it’s harder, sometimes very difficult, to get them to order other parts. Even things like U joints, brake pads, portal parts. And the local PPG parts guy likes me. We are in a first name relationship.
I got a lot of parts at ~75% discount from a nationwide parts liquidator a few years ago that was selling lots of U500NA parts that Freightliner was selling off very cheap. Vintage Parts?? With no intention of replacing. Expensive stuff like several chassis computers (I think I have all of them, 5 or 6); the dash display which is a computer in itself; and lots of other valuable (?!?) stuff. It’s all in the garage in my big wooden crate that came containing the special tools kit. Maybe some stuff that you can’t even get from Germany any more.
The stuff that isn’t unobtainium (almost everything) comes very quickly from Merex. And they seem able to get the almost unobtainium stuff as well.
 

Peter_n_Margaret

Adventurer
Too bad it’s not a crew cab. Can’t have the kids bouncing around in the back ?
Well,..... I would definitely choose a single cab forward control to take advantage of the greater living space area.
Simple matter to have a walk through with certified seating for the kids in the rear, where there will be seats anyhow.
Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 motorhome
 
Well,..... I would definitely choose a single cab forward control to take advantage of the greater living space area.
Simple matter to have a walk through with certified seating for the kids in the rear, where there will be seats anyhow.
Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 motorhome

I kind of like (for the most part that is LOL) having all four of us close together in the same cab. The pass-through seriously limits communication with anybody seated in the back. Plus, I think its not nearly safe enough to put children in the back of a composite box, no matter the seating. I've seen plenty of campers/trailers that have flipped over, not pretty. Only solution I could think of is a roll cage integrated into the box, which could be quite challenging with a composite.
 
Those dramatic pictures of flipped RVs are usually stick framed standard north American junk. Composite boxes are incredibly strong.


Maybe so, but I've yet to see any data supporting this. I'm not going to put my kids in the back of a composite camper going 75mph down the highway.
 

cobro92

Active member
Maybe so, but I've yet to see any data supporting this. I'm not going to put my kids in the back of a composite camper going 75mph down the highway.

Yeah it’s one thing to let your dogs or something run around back there while rolling down the freeway. But children should be in a legal seat with a seatbelt (and airbags). You never know what could happen.


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waveslider

Outdoorsman
I believe PnM was referring to certified seating - or otherwise suitable seating with restraints in the rear area. Not sure if that's even a thing, but it seemed like that was what he was proposing vs. kids running around in the back which sounds like a universally bad idea even though I can distinctly remember standing in the rear area of our IH Travelall as a toddler looking through the rust holes as the white lines zipped past. But that was a different time... :)
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
I strongly suggest DRIVING each of your options before getting too invested in the choice.

I have a Ram 5500 and absolutely love it and its the most comfortable vehicle to drive I've owned

Friend has a Fuso that he is absolutely in love with and swears its his favorite truck ever

We swapped and drove each others trucks.

The Fuso felt and handled like a 1967 Schoolbus (horrendous steering response) to me and he absolutely hated everything about my Ram and claimed it felt like a dumptruck.

They are two VERY VERY different platforms and i'd suggest spending time in both before investing on anything based on paper specs...

You may love one and hate the other enough it would sway your decision completely.

The Fuso was on my radar initially until i physically drove one.. Yeah, not for me... but some folks LOVE them

My .02
 

Joe917

Explorer
I'm curious why the build needs to be so heavy it requires a mega truck for the platform. What if you spec a single rear wheel one ton and build a smaller lighter cab over box? I'm excited to see the release of this build (Supposedly tomorrow). It has an over cab bed and a dinette bed and a fold down bunk.

Weight adds up real fast for a full time overland truck, especially if you want to carry plenty of water and fuel.
$150k US for the hard wall camper? I see a major flaw in their business model!
 

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