Building Camp Kitchen for Production - Need Feedback!!

Lynn

Expedition Leader
evldave said:
Not sure if this would help, but standard RVs use a pressure reducer so that regular water pressure doesn't blow out the plumbing in trailers. You might be able to include this at the inlet for shore water to reduce pressure so a hand pump wouldn't get blown up by it (might take some tinkering).

If you can't work out a dual system, my vote would be put something together for a portable water container over shore or pressurized system. My 2 cents :)

Any method of using city (shore) water would necessitate a the pressure regulator.

What I was trying to say above is that I don't think you're going to be able to have a single faucet serve as a hand pump for portable water AND work for city (shore) water.
 

Photog

Explorer
Might build it for both. Have the fawcet attached to a section of material that is removable. Make two of these pieces of material, and have a pump with hose on one, and a fawcet with shore water hose adapted to the other.

If you know your trip will include a pressurized campground :)confused: ), then bring the extra fawcet with you. If you are avoiding the RV campgrounds, then leave the pressurized fawcet at home.

Either way, the unit could slide in and lock down, in a modular fashion.

The pressurized fawcet module could be sold as an accessory. You could even sell the blank module panel, for folks to rig up their own systems.
 

aslostasyou

Adventurer
I think we could make both work.... Or am I missing something about how a well pump and pressure works?

The thought in the diagram below is that you control the water input via the basic garden hose t. If you have site water available you turn off the pump water valve and turn the spikot on and leave it on. Because the sprayer has a hand controled valve in it the water will just sit patiently waiting to come out.

If you do not have site water you close that valve and revert to the hand well head pump. We could creatively hard mount it some where so you push/pull the handle, etc... I think the only key would be getting a seal around where the hose goes into the h20 supply right? I'm not sure how a well head pump works though. This is just the first thing that came to mind.

???

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Lynn

Expedition Leader
Yeah, that would probably work. I thought you wanted to get both the city water and bucket water to flow out of the same faucet.

In your diagram you are bypassing the faucet when using city water. That should work. but you would have to pump the pump with one hand and hold the sprayer with the other, right?

Probably have to throw in a couple of check valves, to.
 

aslostasyou

Adventurer
Not sure on the pump....I'd have to set it up and experiment. If it creates pressure in the h20 supply container I would think it would last a little while. I need to mock up some test setups...
 

TheGillz

Explorer
I think you are overthinking the water.

I believe if it were me, I would decide who the market was for for the kitchen I was building.

Is it campers more likely to be in campgrounds with services? Those are in large part RVers.

Is it campers that want to get away from campgrounds with services and bring their own water? Those are most of the folks on this site I imagine.

I think you might engineer yourself to death trying to please both. If you insist on making both, make them seperate, offer a campground kitchen, and a displaced kitchen.

my 2c
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
TheGillz said:
I think you are overthinking the water.

I believe if it were me, I would decide who the market was for for the kitchen I was building.

Is it campers more likely to be in campgrounds with services? Those are in large part RVers.

Is it campers that want to get away from campgrounds with services and bring their own water? Those are most of the folks on this site I imagine.

I think you might engineer yourself to death trying to please both. If you insist on making both, make them seperate, offer a campground kitchen, and a displaced kitchen.

my 2c

Course, even those that don't use campgrounds might like to be able to set up the kitchen on the patio when at home. Then the city water connection might be useful.
 

aslostasyou

Adventurer
Very good point! This could double as a deck grill/kitchen setup when not on the go.... I hadn't even thought of that. Good point Lynn.
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
Quite a while ago I posted some ideas about making a kitchen unit that could be used inside a camper, outside the camper (when camping, but to free up interior space (or when cooking fish)), or on the patio. I may revisit that idea if I ever get to build my dream rig.

How not to do it.

The Cook Industires kitchen unit (which I think went under) had a docking station that you could put it on for the patio:

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Photog

Explorer
TheGillz said:
I think you are overthinking the water.

I think you might engineer yourself to death trying to please both. If you insist on making both, make them seperate, offer a campground kitchen, and a displaced kitchen.

my 2c

I agree !

I still believe it could be done easily with two separate fawcets. Plug in the one you need at the time. Really simple.
 

overlander

Expedition Leader
If I had to pick one, go with onboard or containerized water, and users can use city water to refill containers. I am not looking for some overly complicated monster that takes up my whole rear area. I haven't decided on electric vs hand pump, but forget shore power. If there's shore power, I'll stay in a hotel.
 

T.Low

Expedition Leader
overlander said:
If I had to pick one, go with onboard or containerized water, and users can use city water to refill containers. I am not looking for some overly complicated monster that takes up my whole rear area. I haven't decided on electric vs hand pump, but forget shore power. If there's shore power, I'll stay in a hotel.



My idea of shore power.

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BlueHZT60

Adventurer
All I know is: Build it right the first time. I'm still using the kitchen box my dad built in roughly 1968-70; the only problem is that it is now living on top of storage drawers in a lifted landcruiser and not on the floor of a 60's station wagon - the cutting board is somewhere near chest high, rather than waist high. Plan on the third generation inheriting your kitchen :). Bob
 

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