chiptune dpf delete problems

casejeep

Observer
I hear Customs tests your exhaust when coming back into the country. But if one was planning a 6 month trip to South America it might be an option? Just trying to think outside the box and stuff. If you drive your truck into CA and it doest pass their tests at the checkpoint they can keep you from entering.

All we need is for the rest of the world to get on board with this low sulfur stuff.
 

Czechsix

Watching you from a ridge. In Alaska. I'm cold.
I thought it was being brought in as a training aid for the charity school you run for underprivileged, at-risk, gender-neutral, innercity kids, you bighearted lug. :sombrero:

Quit exposing my importation secrets, Mog. :p

Now I'm gonna have to go figure something else out. Sigh.
 

jhrodd

Adventurer
I hear Customs tests your exhaust when coming back into the country. But if one was planning a 6 month trip to South America it might be an option? Just trying to think outside the box and stuff. If you drive your truck into CA and it doest pass their tests at the checkpoint they can keep you from entering.

All we need is for the rest of the world to get on board with this low sulfur stuff.

What! Where did you hear that? I've never seen anything like that. Customs has no interest in your vehicle emissions nor does immigration. If you're importing a vehicle they will want to see the EPA and DOT stickers. I've had to unload cars so they could look under the hood but they don't do any emissions testing, that's up to the jurisdiction where the vehicle will be registered.
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
Just as a 'more data points'
The local window shop that installed my windows has been Fuso operators for a long time (All FE trucks, although they covet my FG and I need to attach the PWA {Pitbull with Aids} to it when they are at my house :Wow1:)
They just purchased a new Hino and are seeing all the same problems the new Fusos are having or had with the transmissions (must have forward movement to have any torque lockup, weird shifting), DEF, etc.
So it seems it might be an across the board problem with the newer trucks, not just Mitisubishi
(side note they had one of their FEs {14,050 lb rating} at 29,450 lb {measured on the scales} with no 'long term effects', other then it was pulling 6% grades at 20 mph).
 

lehel1

Adventurer
newer trucks

Just as a 'more data points'
The local window shop that installed my windows has been Fuso operators for a long time (All FE trucks, although they covet my FG and I need to attach the PWA {Pitbull with Aids} to it when they are at my house :Wow1:)
They just purchased a new Hino and are seeing all the same problems the new Fusos are having or had with the transmissions (must have forward movement to have any torque lockup, weird shifting), DEF, etc.
So it seems it might be an across the board problem with the newer trucks, not just Mitisubishi
(side note they had one of their FEs {14,050 lb rating} at 29,450 lb {measured on the scales} with no 'long term effects', other then it was pulling 6% grades at 20 mph).

hello alll

yes, the day of good old reliable trucks is gone, at least for the moment. comercial trucks are just that, made for work and constant expensive matainence and repairs which mostly only big companies can afford. and the trucks are built accordingly. a fun day to be had is too hang out at a big truck service center and talk to the mechanics, that will give you a pretty good idea of what your dealing with if you decide to buy a newer big truck. hino in fact should just be all recalled with the numerious problems they are now having.

the newer 2010 and on are almost a joke. with the fiat motor and completely bad transmissions, no low range and all wheel drive system you could almost say they are not 4wd vehicals at all. expedition travel capable, i dont think so. after this year of turmoil, my new difinition of a expedtion vehical is a vehical that can get you from here to there, be easy to work on if and when needed, and be able to travel most of the world with whatever fuels might be available.

i personally have spent 5 years trying to get a newer expedition camper built and do some extended traveling. my old unimog was slow, noisy and didnt have the luxury of the newer fuso, but i would have been traveling to the destinations ive dreamed of by now. although i have enjoyed the building process, it sure changes your priorites when now being retired and ready to travel im having to start over again in planning a more capable vehical before i can hit the road. i certainly cant imagine how i might be feeling now if i would have forked out a couple of hundred thousand on a ready built expedtion camper on a fuso chassis.

for those of you thinking of a expedtion type vehical, its important to take lots of time and decide what exactly your expectations are ??

a great example, i bought a new bmw gs in 1995. the first year of the r1100gs. although i had a great trip to alaska that year, i got lucky to be able to get parts early enough that summer (the dealers were taking parts off the showroom bikes to trry and keep people on the road) for the brake problems and in tank fuel filter problems the gs's were having. most people had to ship there bikes back home unable to continue riding them. the new gs are similar to the trucks in that if something goes wrong, your done. no going to any local shop for a repair. i put a 180000 on that bike over the years. but my first alaska trip almost ended badly.
with y recent truck experience, im actually looking at an 80's model bmw. my next trip i want to hit more remote areas in alaska, so my priorities are for a mechanical basied vehical that i can keep running even if there is a problem.

i guess im sharing my opinion on this, because i am meeting more and more people who really want to get into traveling by vehival to remote locations. and that great, but somewhere along the line there has been a nauve veiw of whats involved. i remember the very first couple i met out in the desert with an old unimog, they were on a shoestring budget and the guy had to just rebuild the engine head. that seemed so cool to me. and they were on there way to south america. this is a far cry from my dreams, driving down the road very near to there years later in limp mode, trying to find a fuso scanning tool to clear a dpf code because i ran into some cold weather.

enough babbling here, time to load my camper and use what i got and stop compalining lolllll enjoy your day
 

Czechsix

Watching you from a ridge. In Alaska. I'm cold.
Well, as I sit here in Bend, with the '12 sitting at the Pacific Truck Center with a range of DPF/DEF issues....has anyone had any further experiences with a DPF elimination?

Yeah, necropost, I know.

What the hell, it'll only take a week and a half until it actually gets to the front of the service queue, I have time.
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Well, as I sit here in Bend, with the '12 sitting at the Pacific Truck Center with a range of DPF/DEF issues....has anyone had any further experiences with a DPF elimination?

Yeah, necropost, I know.

What the hell, it'll only take a week and a half until it actually gets to the front of the service queue, I have time.

Well, I took the EGR system off mine, does that count? :)

Seriously, sorry the bumpy road continues. What are the issues you are seeing and how far along are you in the project?
 

Czechsix

Watching you from a ridge. In Alaska. I'm cold.
It is what it is.

Going to roll out of town in a bit, heading a ways south for a while. Not doing any good waiting around here, so might as well go sit around a lake, ya know?

Anyway, EC camper build is done, but we don't know if the issue is old DEF, DPF clogged, crapped out injector doser, etc etc. Service center has a bunch of folks in front of us that need work too, so we're just going to try to not stress too much.

At least we made it into their parking lot before going into total limp mode, LOL.
 

dlh62c

Explorer
Has the EC body been mounted yet?

Does a EC body mounting relocate the DEF tank?

Have you installed the Steinbauer Module yet?

The DEF pump unit is mounted on top of the DEF tank. It's easily damaged during a body mounting if someone isn't paying attention. It breaks at a small barb fitting where a hose is attached.
 
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EAB

Observer
Czechsix
sorry to hear you stick for a bit hopefully they will get it sorted out. Is the EC house on? We are headed up to Labrador in a couple of weeks.

Pugslyyy
It was great meeting you at expo. i have the 2007 which I am considering pulling the EGR off. Do you mind summarizing the benefits and how you went about it?

Thanks
eric
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Czechsix
sorry to hear you stick for a bit hopefully they will get it sorted out. Is the EC house on? We are headed up to Labrador in a couple of weeks.

Pugslyyy
It was great meeting you at expo. i have the 2007 which I am considering pulling the EGR off. Do you mind summarizing the benefits and how you went about it?

Thanks
eric

Of course modifying the emission controls on your vehicle is not legal so don't do it. Especially if you live in a state that verifies presence of emission control equipment as part of a vehicle inspection/registration.

Anyone who did want to do it would find it to be a simple process. you will need to fashion two blanking plates (one for the exhaust manifold, another for the intake manifold, and a mounting plate for the EGR valve motor/sensor. You can remove everything except for the EGR valve motor/sensor - that has to remain connected to the ECU to avoid throwing a code.
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
In reality, you don't have to remove anything. You just need to stop the flow of exhaust gas into the intake manifold. That can be done with a simple blanking plate between the exhaust manifold and the EGR transfer pipe.
Well, that's what I have heard... ;)
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
In reality, you don't have to remove anything. You just need to stop the flow of exhaust gas into the intake manifold. That can be done with a simple blanking plate between the exhaust manifold and the EGR transfer pipe.
Well, that's what I have heard... ;)

Yes, that will work too. But you can also reduce weight by eliminating unnecessary components. :)
 

Czechsix

Watching you from a ridge. In Alaska. I'm cold.
Czechsix
sorry to hear you stick for a bit hopefully they will get it sorted out. Is the EC house on? We are headed up to Labrador in a couple of weeks.

Thanks
eric

Still in Bend, truck is still at the service center. So far it's a small issue with a harness plug (harness being replaced), and they're replacing NOx, O2, and SCR sensors...all of them. Under warranty, at least, so that's good. Only thing I can think of is that they were somehow contaminated, but I'll find out more by the end of the week. At the least we're getting to visit all the local attractions, and there are some nice ones here.

Yah, EC house is on, haven't had a chance to use it yet. If the truck is running reliably by the end of the week we'll swing by EC again, have them install the new rear winch setup and fix a few small issues, and then head home to SoCal. We might be up in Oregon again at the end of the month too....
 

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