Future Toyota 4x4s for the US Market

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i know it costs $60K to buy a 70 series TLC in Aus. But all cars cost a lot more there, doesn't it?
If toyota could some how manage to produce 70's in North America(Canada/US/Mex), put in the exsisting 4.0L or 4.7L or 5.7L iforce and reduce the price a little bit, I think it could do well here.. just sayin

I would be real curious what the MSRP would be if they manufactured the 70 series (and the HiLux) here.

No reason for why there couldn't be a diesel option either, if Toyota can meet CAFE standards, they can meet the US's.:ylsmoke:
 
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I think that Toyota views this just like the big three do. Why bring another car here that will compete with the Tundra? Same reason there is no ranger or dakota.
 

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I think that Toyota views this just like the big three do. Why bring another car here that will compete with the Tundra? Same reason there is no ranger or dakota.


True, the Tundra doesn't sell very well though.

If I was King of Toyota :)ylsmoke:) I would bump up the Tundra to the 3/4-1 Ton category, with diesel and gasser engine options. Have the Crew Max with the 6.5/8' bed options. Still have a 1/2 ton option as well. Always thought if Toyota got into the heavier pick-up market the domestics would be doomed.

Bring the HiLux chassis over with the Tacoma body, keep the marketing as "Class by Itself", which it basically is now, advertise it as the "New and Improved Tacoma" stronger frame, better suspension, now with a diesel engine options for better fuel economy over the long haul (diesel option would only be a $1000 upcharge over petrol), and we brought back the single cab 7' bed, some of you may remember from past Toyotas!

It really isn't new and improved...just a HiLux chassis, shhh don't tell anyone...

As for the 70, we all know it couldn't compete against the US 3/4-1 ton market...even though it is rated as a 1 ton. Aim the 70 at the Jeep JK market, keep the 70 Chassis, but with a retro styled 40 series body and linked coil rear suspension. With gas and diesel engine options, as well as different wheel bases and door options.
Of course the current FJ Cruiser would be discontinued. :)

All 4WD models would have a lever actuated t-case, with electronic actuator option. (Ford does this with their F250 and up trucks)

Ok...I need to wake up from my dream now.:)
 
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jim65wagon

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Inter cooled diesel hence the bonnet scoop

Kermit said:
pic of the intercooler (well the plastic beauty cover), Grimbo was referring to.

Well, since it has a real purpose (and a good one) I can deal with my mental juxtaposition. Guess, I'm too used to hood scoops (uh, bonnet scoops) being for air intake into the engine.....intercoolers never crossed my mind. Thanks guys!
 

RMP&O

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Has anyone from the expedition community been in touch with the Toyota product development people?

Any chance of a less luxurious, more rugged, cheaper version of the Landcruiser?

How about a long wheelbase FJ Cruiser?

A Diesel Tacoma?


Never going to happen and this topic has come up many times before....

When you can't have what you want off the showroom floor, build it yourself. Otherwise just forget about it and move on.
 

RMP&O

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Found this in another thread, neat size comparison between the FJ Cruiser and the 70.

That is a Prado dude, while it may have a "70" in the vin number or whatever it is not really a 70-series. It is the black sheep of LC actually and shunned my most Cruiser people. I like the body style on them but beyond that, nadda'.
 

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That is a Prado dude, while it may have a "70" in the vin number or whatever it is not really a 70-series. It is the black sheep of LC actually and shunned my most Cruiser people. I like the body style on them but beyond that, nadda'.

What are you high? That is not a Prado. It is a 70 Series GXL Wagon. Not much different than a Troop Carrier, other than the body differences, that chassis
is damn near identical. What isn't there to like? Other than having the cabin of the old Prado, it is more 70 series than it is Prado.

http://www.toyota.com.au/landcruiser-70-series/compare-specifications?vehicleId=2180,2182
 
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RMP&O

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The relative difference between gas and diesel per year is probably only a few thousand bucks at the most. You'll have sold the truck and be on to the next thing long before you'd recoup $25k. It doesn't make any sense.

It does make sense if you do the work yourself and do it for half of that price tag. People who do these kinds of motor swaps get a minimum of $50/hr. and that is dirt cheap, $100/hr. is more like it. And if they are not charging by the hour then they have done the swap enough times to know how many hours it will take so they add up the hours x $75/hr. and tack it on to the "package" price tag. If you plan to own the truck for a long long time and plan to do the engine swap yourself, it makes perfect sense. Otherwise, I agree with you.
 

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