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java

Expedition Leader
Okay so i have a ipad with 3g and wifi but i dont want to pay for at&t services for data.

The plan now is to root my android phone and tether it to the ipad as a wifi spot using hpsa+ or 4g as the data stream to power the ipad.

Im excited about this possibility for the g2/hero android phone from htc

tether my g1 to my netbook, its acctually damn fast. you will like it. im running cyanogen 6.0
 

Jeepthreat

Observer
Sweet, just got the g2 today and i pronounce windows mobile done.
Now to see if i can get it to do wifi for the ipad
 

Jeepthreat

Observer
yeah
looks like i am slammed - g2 unrootable so i cant wifi tether it to the ipad for navigation.

you can temp root it, but i havent found how to get the wifi tether yet.
 

java

Expedition Leader
yeah
looks like i am slammed - g2 unrootable so i cant wifi tether it to the ipad for navigation.

you can temp root it, but i havent found how to get the wifi tether yet.

temp root doesnt last long enough... thats the only real reason i rooted, i tether to my netbook, and overclocking but thats about all i use it for. im bummed about the g2. there is a rumor that the mytouch hd will get the hardware chip that limits it also...
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Android slates have a problem: Most apps in the Google Market are designed for the display found on a smart phone. They look funny if scaled up to fit the slate's larger screen. If you view the app in the resolution designed for a phone, a lot of the slate's screen real estate is wasted.

Notion Ink has an interesting solution. They're working on an interface that will allow a large slate to show three Android apps running side by side. This is an extension of the way the Android OS manages windows. Today Android allows only one app to be visible in the "foreground," while other apps run invisibly in the background.

Being able to view several apps simultaneously is one big difference between the new slate computers (including iPad) and computers that run OSes designed for the desktop. I think I'd be more productive if I could view and use multiple apps simultaneously.

it remains to be seen if Android 3.0 or iOS 4.2 will adopt this approach to viewing multiple active windows simultaneousle.

Here's the blog entry that describes the Notion Ink window management ideas:
http://notionink.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/week-end-special-part-iv-the-eden/
 

craig

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That seems like a kludge. I sure hope Android doesn't support this. A higher resolution cell phone screen would have the same problem . Android App developers need to re-work their software to scale appropriately so they will work on both the phones and the slates.
 

Jeepthreat

Observer
Aha!

I got root on the Tmobile G2 Android and I am now running wireless tether!
Download the code for it here. Google Code Link. It's legal, but could violate your carrier terms of agreement for your contract as some plan to charge for tethering.

This is good for getting to upload and share photos if I can find an uplink in the wilderness!
 

java

Expedition Leader
Aha!

I got root on the Tmobile G2 Android and I am now running wireless tether!
Download the code for it here. Google Code Link. It's legal, but could violate your carrier terms of agreement for your contract as some plan to charge for tethering.

This is good for getting to upload and share photos if I can find an uplink in the wilderness!

just temp root still tho? :(

i like the g2 but its killingme with being unrootable at the moment......

so i picked up a vibrant. rooted and have wireless AP too :coffeedrink:
 

haven

Expedition Leader
If you're looking for a large Android tablet, the Viewsonic G Tablet is worth considering. In size and performance, the Viewsonic G matches the WiFi iPad point for point, and costs $100 less.

Model: Viewsonic G Tablet
Processor: 1GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU
RAM: 512MB
Storage: 16 GB micro SDHC card, expandable to 32 GB
Screen: 10.1 inch capacitive LCD, 1024 x 600 pixels, LED illuminated
Connectivity: 802.11 b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 2.1
Ports: Docking port, USB, mini-USB, headphones, DC power input
Camera: 1.3 MP
Operating System: Android 2.2
Dimensions: 10.5 x 6.8 x 0.5 inches
Weight: 1.6 lbs

Accessories: Dock with HDMI out, USB

One shortcoming: The Viewsonic G has a 3650 mAh battery. The iPad's battery is 6500 mAh. So battery life should be about half what the iPad enjoys.

The G Tablet list price is $399. Sears has sold them for about a month. Their price today is $379. A comparably equipped iPad (16 GB of flash storage and no 3G) is $499. Staples and Office Depot also carry the G Tablet.

As shipped from Viewsonic, the G Tablet lacks access to the Google Marketplace, and does not support Flash. Viewsonic is about to launch its own apps store, and will make a software upgrade available in December that turns Flash on. If you don't want to wait, some enterprising hackers have figured out how to correct these limitations.
http://www.netbooknews.com/12883/viewsonic-g-tablet-unboxed-and-reviewed/

The G Tablet has USB ports, so it should be possible to get an external GPS receiver working with navigation software. I have not seen a web page that explains how to accomplish this, however.

For more information:
http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/

Viewsonic has several 10 inch tablet computers in the works. One dual-boots Windows and Android, and another runs Windows 7 exclusively. Be careful when ordering!
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Archos, the French maker famous for multi-media players, is also very active in the Android tablet market. The recent "Generation 8" tablet series includes five models ranging from mini 2.8 inch and 3.2 inch screens, to a more useful 4.3 inch model (about $245). Then there's the great-looking Archos 70 (7 inch screen, about $280) and Archos 101 (10 inch screen, $300). All include the ability to connect to the Internet via a 3G or 4G phone that supports tethering via Bluetooth.

http://www.archos.com/products/ta/index.html?country=us&lang=en

Now Archos has announced a software upgrade to Android 2.2 for the Gen 8 models. The upgrade includes support for Bluetooth GPS receivers.
 

Fish

Adventurer
Archos, the French maker famous for multi-media players, is also very active in the Android tablet market. The recent "Generation 8" tablet series includes five models ranging from mini 2.8 inch and 3.2 inch screens, to a more useful 4.3 inch model (about $245). The 43, the great-looking Archos 70 (7 inch screen, about $280) and Archos 101 (10 inch screen, $300) include the ability to connect via Bluetooth to your 3G or 4G phone that supports tethering for Internet access.

http://www.archos.com/products/ta/index.html?country=us&lang=en

Now Archos has announced a software upgrade to Android 2.2 for the Gen 8 models. The upgrade includes support for Bluetooth GPS receivers.

Interesting. I've been debating trying to find something like this to use as essentially a big screen phone. Hmmmm.........
 

Dave Bennett

Adventurist
Daylight viewable?

That's the issue. If you can't see the screen in daylight it's worthless for overlanding.

Which ones of these can be seen in full daylight???
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Aside from e-readers like the Kindle and Nook, there are no Android devices with daylight-readable displays available for purchase today. [Remember that the navi systems sold by auto manufacturers today are not daylight readable, either. They have to be buried deep in the dashboard and backlit to be legible.] The situation will change next week, however.

Notion Ink is expected to announce that its "Adam" 10 inch tablet will be available for pre-order starting December 9. Adam tablets probably will ship with Android 2.2. Notion Ink will offer 2.3 as soon as Google releases it.

There will be several versions of the Adam. My understanding is that all variants will have true GPS chips on board. Read the Adam's specs here http://www.notionink.com/techspecs.php

Note that the Pixel Qi daylight-readable screen is an option. I've read that the Pixel Qi screen will cost an additional $175. [Update: The extra cost of the Pixel Qi display is only $125]

Prices for the Adam models are anticipated to be somewhat less than comparably equipped iPad models.
 

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