Introducing the Van-That-Can- 2000 E350 V10 EB Passenger Van

bknudtsen

Expedition Leader
Looks good! Seems pretty modular. It appears that some of the forward storage on the driver's side is only accessed when the passenger side base is removed? Or is the top hinged?

Oh, and when are you gonna bend up a nice pre-runner style front bumper for it? :sombrero:
 
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desertspeed

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Looks good! Seems pretty modular. It appears that some of the forward storage on the driver's side is only accessed when the passenger side base is removed? Or is the top hinged?

Oh, and when are you gonna bend up a nice pre-runner style front bumper for it? :sombrero:

I know its hard to tell from the pics, but both "forward" action packers slide in along the right (pass) and then slide to the left into their "spots". They can be accessed when both sides of the platform are in place, although the back one (really the most forward one, but the furthest away from the back doors) requires some long arms and leaning pretty far into the van to get it in/out of place. I can also reach in underneath the rear seat and push it out as well. That spot will be reserved for stuff I don't need to access too often. Once those two are in place, the action packer that fits towards the front on the pass side slides in and "locks" the other two in place. Once all three are in they don't move around at all.

It is a little easier to see in the 3rd and 4th pics in post #85- they slide back along the areas where the tools are in the pics.

I'm not really a fan of big prerunner bumpers.... even my prerunner doesn't have one. :)
 
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bknudtsen

Expedition Leader
I gotta stop looking at your pre-runner build thread. I always find myself perusing craigslist for good deals on Rangers (poor man's F-150) afterward. Need to finish my van first....

I do like how the front bumpers on both of your rigs kinda match. Looking forward to a shot of them together in Baja!
 

desertspeed

Adventurer
A few last pics as I am getting loaded up to head down to baja for 8 days. It is mostly done, except I ran out of time and didnt come up with a good solution for latching down the hinged panel. I will have to figure it out when I get back.

You can see that with the panel folded over access to the front sections is much better.

I also still need to add utily-track to the top, a fold down panel in front of the driver's side section, and a few tie down hooks, and then paint it all up. I figure this trip will be a good test to see if anything needs to be added/changed.
 

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desertspeed

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I gotta stop looking at your pre-runner build thread. I always find myself perusing craigslist for good deals on Rangers (poor man's F-150) afterward. Need to finish my van first....

I do like how the front bumpers on both of your rigs kinda match. Looking forward to a shot of them together in Baja!

Yeah, try to resist that one for your wallets sake. :) They are definitely fun, but they get expensive fast and they constantly need prep/upgrades. I am really enjoying the (relative) simplicity of the van project, as my prerunner has been a non-stop work in progress for over 4 years now and I still have a lot to do on it. The van has a definite end in sight, and after that it will just need small improvements here and there.

I am just a little burned out on my truck, so the van has been a perfect distraction for a while- I will get back into the truck when the van gets finished after the first of the year.
 

desertspeed

Adventurer
Finished up the install yesterday, and as soon as I got it back on all four wheels realized I had a problem. The front springs are too tall, and really, really stiff. The rear seem fine. I called Chris and he is looking into it.

Just to follow up on this- just before I had left for San Felipe in early October, I had received another set of springs from Atlas. I thought they were supposed to be my new front springs, but when I measured them they would have lifted the front up even more. I only had a day or two before the trip, so I just decided to deal with it when I got back. After the trip I talked to Chris and gave him the part # on the springs, and he said that those were actually for the rear (that didn't even occur to me since the eye to eye length was exactly the same as the front springs and about 4" shorter than the rears)- so, the issue was not that my front springs were too tall, but that the rears they sent were too short.....

I threw the new rear springs on (and as they got weight on them they flattened out and extended the eye to eye length) and it evened out the stance perfectly, and the spring rate on the rears felt perfect. I still had the issue of the front springs being way too stiff, so last Tuesday I made arrangements to head up to Atlas and have them take a look. I/they think they made the springs for a van with a heavy front bumper with a winch, or maybe for a diesel, but they swapped my springs out for a softer pack. Same height, but now it rides much, much better. They haven't settled in yet, and I am hoping the ride height drops an inch or two, but since I will be driving most of the baja 1000 course over the next week they will definitely get worked in.
 

desertspeed

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Just got back- we had an awesome trip. Close to 1800 miles, about 500 of it dirt. We did most of the "smoother" sections of the Baja 1000 course, skipping the really whooped out sections which are just way too rough for a van. My buddy Crash and I went in the van (along with my Vizsla and his German Shepard), and we met up with several other vehicles in Mexicali early Sat morning the 10th. We all had different agendas/speeds for the trip, so we would let the faster vehicles take off throughout the day and meet up with them at different points. This worked out great until day 4 when we lost our race radio antenna to an overhanging tree branch, and we were on our own the rest of the trip.

Overall the van did really well. Like any Baja trip there were a few "casualties"- aside from the loss of the radio antenna, I also lost both front upper shock mounts, and had a weird issue with my shift lever lock. Before I left I knew it was very possible I would have an issue with the shock mounts, but I was hopefull they would hold. After I got the new front springs on (which worked great on the trip) the upper shock mounts were too low for the longer shocks that Chris sent me. I was running out of time and had to cut the U-Joint mounts out of the coil buckets and weld new ones on, and had to do it at night in the rain 2 nights before I left, and I wasn't able to gusset it as much as I wanted. A couple of hundred miles of washboard roads proved too much, and I lost the pass side on day 3 and the drivers side on day 4. Luckily with leaf springs the shocks aren't essential, and other than a more bouncy ride it didn't slow us down too much. The next plan is to cut the coil buckets out and add a real shock hoop, and probaly some 2" or 2.5" bypass shocks- the van is just way too heavy for the Billsteins on the types of roads I like to run- they are overheated and useless within a few miles of high speed bumps.

The other issue I had was on day 4, in the middle of nowhere, we came to a gate at a ranch- after opening the gate I went to put the van in drive and the shift lever would not move. I turned off the key, and then back on, and still it wouldn't move. We tried everything we could think of, but eventually I had to disconnect the cable at the transmission and move the trans lever by hand- luckily it seemed to work fine and confirmed the issue was at the shift lever, not the trans. That was a huge relief since we were 60 miles from pavement in either direction. For the rest of that day my buddy had to crawl under the van anytime we needed to reverse or park- a pain in the *** but at least we could keep going. The next morning we ran into a motorcyle chase team in town with an E350, and he mentioned that the shift lever lock (when you press on the brake) is electrically activated by a solenoid, and I should try checking the fuse- the fuse was blown, so it ended up being a quick easy fix.

I also learned a lot about the functionality of my storage platform- most of it worked great but there are a few changes I want to make so it is easier to access some things and a few other additions I want to make. More on that later. Here are a few pics from the trip.
 

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desertspeed

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A few pics from the race- race mile 245 a little south of San Felipe.
 

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bknudtsen

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Great report! Good thing about finding that blown fuse! Being the shift ********** would get old real quickly. :smiley_drive: I look forward to seeing your fixes for the problems you had. Going down to Baja during the race is something I would love to do, but I wouldn't even know where to begin. Maybe someday.
 

desertspeed

Adventurer
Not really an update (although I have been working on some improvements to my storage/sleeping platform), but I wanted to thow this out there if anyone is interested. I bought a passenger side aluminum rear door panel with storage trays http://www.plumbingvans.com/cargo_vans/door_panels.php , but unfortunately it hits on my platform so I had to take the trays off. If anyone has either an aluminum panel without the trays, or a stock plastic panel that is in good shape, I would be happy to trade straight across. I will even include my patented bottle opener :)
 

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