Isuzu npr 4wd

gator70

Well-known member
A bit of soul searching

I see youtube expedition builds at 2-3 years long. In the forums some go for two years.

Mine is already 11 months old.

At some point you must say to yourself. What is the minimum to reach a finished state.

Make a list

This is my process now.
 

rruff

Explorer
What is the minimum to reach a finished state.
I could probably drag it out until I die... but I've also been using it for a couple years, so...

If this is about the pass-through, I definitely think that could wait. Probably a lot of other things, too.
 

gator70

Well-known member
I could probably drag it out until I die... but I've also been using it for a couple years, so...

If this is about the pass-through, I definitely think that could wait. Probably a lot of other things, too.

I'm going to Alaska and am scared of bears (passthroughs save you)
(hand held air horns are good tools)

They Tried to Break Into Our Camper! - Grown Men Screaming for their Lives​

 
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rruff

Explorer
Regarding grizzlies... they aren't going to hang out and ambush you while you go from the cab to the habitat. If they are hanging around at all, it's because you parked in an area where people leave stuff they can eat. Check for signs of bear, and human trash. Generally they avoid humans.

If you are that worried about them, then I don't think camping in their habitat would be very fun. Sitting in a small cell and looking through a window is not a good way to experience a place...

Two legged varmints are far more dangerous, and if they don't want you to escape they can easily prevent it by slashing your tires, or something. But I've always felt that people up to no good are far more likely to look for victims in places where they are easier to find. :unsure:
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
As far as I remember, you are going with a 2 door setup with no boot.
Exactly what do you want to discuss about a passthu?
 

gator70

Well-known member
As far as I remember, you are going with a 2 door setup with no boot.
Exactly what do you want to discuss about a passthu?

Thanks for the response. I posted a few pictures.

Once the habitat is on the truck I can map the location of the habitat exit door to the back of the cab. Then drill four corner holes in the rear of the cab to map the location.

I posted a picture of the frame type (requiring a different size) and I posted the picture of the door / panel to be used in the cab.

Since the rear of the cab is not flat, the frame must have 3 inch sides or more.

I will need to remove the rear window glass, and replace that with a aluminum panel the size of the window.

I remove all items from the rear of the cab and cut the square hole.

I will need to outsource some of this work and the instructions must be defined ahead of time.

Any comments on my conceived steps?
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
Thanks for the response. I posted a few pictures.

The confusing thing about your build thread is that you continually use pictures from other people's builds, making it challenging to determine what is yours and what isn't.
I am pretty sure that the majority of people here know what the back of a Fuso cab looks like. What you need to do is show designs that you are considering to use yourself.
Posting pictures, like the one above, does not reflect what you are planning on doing. The above setup is obviously intended to use a boot between the camper and cab, which is not what you are planning on doing.
Comparing apples with oranges serves not real purpose.

Show us a proposed design that YOU are thinking of using for your own truck, then ask for comments on that.
Making your questions specific, not generic, should yield a much better response from people on this forum.
 

gator70

Well-known member
The confusing thing about your build thread is that you continually use pictures from other people's builds, making it challenging to determine what is yours and what isn't.
I am pretty sure that the majority of people here know what the back of a Fuso cab looks like. What you need to do is show designs that you are considering to use yourself.
Posting pictures, like the one above, does not reflect what you are planning on doing. The above setup is obviously intended to use a boot between the camper and cab, which is not what you are planning on doing.
Comparing apples with oranges serves not real purpose.

Show us a proposed design that YOU are thinking of using for your own truck, then ask for comments on that.
Making your questions specific, not generic, should yield a much better response from people on this forum.

Everyone approaches a engineering challenge differently. I use pictures that I find for two reasons

1) To help me further my ideas of the approach along. As you know it starts one way and can end in another way. And I sometimes find a better way as I move along in the process.
2) When speaking with a solution provider IE: skilled worker. Without full drawings and only with final dimensions I need to point to a picture to communicate the approach.

I'm not building a product to mass produce rather a one off. So the engineering effort is not the same.

About the form of the rear of the cab, I would differ with you as I have seen many builders cut the complete back of the cab off, and weld sheet metal to the full perimeter to end up with a 100% flat surface in the end. And many times this was on MB firetrucks. So there are different approaches.

In the end I welcome different opinions. So thanks for the comments.
 
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gator70

Well-known member
Again to clarify

Two doors, one on the habitat and one inside the cab. No bellows. The spacing should be 3-4 inches of air between them.

Habitat door shown below

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SkiFreak

Crazy Person
About the form of the rear of the cab, I would differ with you...
My point was that pretty much everyone knows that the back of a Fuso cab is not flat. Yes, it can be a pain, but it is what it is.

So... do you have any formative plans or ideas of what you intend to do, or are you looking for someone on this forum to come up with a design for you? :unsure:

Have you thought about how you will stop water making you wet when you go through the passthru, should there be bad weather, or are you not concerned about that?

BTW, using an aluminium sheet to cover the hole that results after removing the window would not be my ideal choice.
In my experience, similar metals always work better together.
 

rruff

Explorer
Have you thought about how you will stop water making you wet when you go through the passthru, should there be bad weather, or are you not concerned about that?
There is a berth covering it.
I'm going to Alaska and am scared of bears (passthroughs save you)
(hand held air horns are good tools)

They Tried to Break Into Our Camper! - Grown Men Screaming for their Lives​

Actually they were laughing about it. These were just black bears in CA, not grizzlies. Black bears are not a problem... even mothers with cubs. The bears were around because it's a popular camp spot, and the bears are acclimated to humans. I'd never camp in such a place by choice. I live in a town where wild horses, deer, elk, bears, mountain lions are common and very much acclimated to humans. By far the greatest danger is running into them with your vehicle...

I'd never put a pass through on a rig like yours, but if I wanted to make a hole and door on the back of the cab, I'd make a mold out of Foamular to fit the hole and fiberglass it.
 

gator70

Well-known member
My point was that pretty much everyone knows that the back of a Fuso cab is not flat. Yes, it can be a pain, but it is what it is.

So... do you have any formative plans or ideas of what you intend to do, or are you looking for someone on this forum to come up with a design for you? :unsure:

Have you thought about how you will stop water making you wet when you go through the passthru, should there be bad weather, or are you not concerned about that?

BTW, using an aluminium sheet to cover the hole that results after removing the window would not be my ideal choice.
In my experience, similar metals always work better together.


Thanks again for the comments.

I don't see getting wet while climbing through to the cab. My habitat covers the crew cab roof.

About folks on this forum and suggestions:

Anyone that has done this before may have tips.
Anyone who is in the middle of this engineering may have tips
Anyone that took a different approach may have lessons learned.
Anyone who cut the hole in the cab, may have suggestions
Anyone who was faced with the rear window delete may have a better approach.
Anyone who has finished a passthrough and could add to the discussion would be helpful.
 
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