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[SkiFreak]

I wonder if this bathroom is too big?

Bit late now to make fundamental changes to your pre made camper design, isn't it?

 

[SkiFreak]

Many builders are moving to high tech electrical

Bluetooth, wifi, managed 12v systems.

Analog is less problematic. Especially when issues occur.

The best setups that I've seen have include both.
The BlissMobil camper design comes to mind immediately.

 

[gator70]

Maybe you should size all of the cabling and switch gear appropriately, reducing the possibility of overtaxing any single component of the electrical system.
That's how any decent electrical system would be designed.

Even when correct cabling the main cutoff switch has been caught melting. I'm going to take steps, such as upgrade my switch to a 500 amp version. And where I've seen some create heat is when a terminal gets loose from vibration.

 

[gator70]

Bit late now to make fundamental changes to your pre made camper design, isn't it?

Yes, I guess they used a in house shower pan, and created the shower around that size. However other habitat suppliers such as BlissMobil in Europe starts at $125,000 plus shipping and tariffs. Then add the truck costs.

 

[SkiFreak]

My point about BlissMobil was in response to you statements regarding analog vs digital.
You have made it obvious that you want to do everything on the cheap, which is fine, but doing things properly sometimes comes with a cost. That's just a fact.

One thing that I never skimp on is electrical equipment, because doing so can easily result in the potential for catastrophe.
As much as cheap Chinese electrical equipment may seem appealing to some, I tend to avoid it in my own designs.

You used the example of a loose terminal... When it comes to tightening electrical connections, using a torque wrench is recommended, because over tightening can be a bad thing too.
Along a similar line, my concern with cheaper terminals is that their specifications can have a greater tolerance to name brand ones. This can affect the efficiency of the crimp, which when done properly, should produce a cold weld between the terminal and the cable. If the crimp is not sound, this will likely result in a high resistance point, which will likely generate extra heat. In a worst case scenario, that heat could result in a fire.

Building on a budget is a valid goal, but in my opinion, you should be selective on what you are saving money on.

 

[gator70]

My point about BlissMobil was in response to you statements regarding analog vs digital.
You have made it obvious that you want to do everything on the cheap, which is fine, but doing things properly sometimes comes with a cost. That's just a fact.

One thing that I never skimp on is electrical equipment, because doing so can easily result in the potential for catastrophe.
As much as cheap Chinese electrical equipment may seem appealing to some, I tend to avoid it in my own designs.

You used the example of a loose terminal... When it comes to tightening electrical connections, using a torque wrench is recommended, because over tightening can be a bad thing too.
Along a similar line, my concern with cheaper terminals is that their specifications can have a greater tolerance to name brand ones. This can affect the efficiency of the crimp, which when done properly, should produce a cold weld between the terminal and the cable. If the crimp is not sound, this will likely result in a high resistance point, which will likely generate extra heat. In a worst case scenario, that heat could result in a fire.

Building on a budget is a valid goal, but in my opinion, you should be selective on what you are saving money on.

Hmm, cheap Chinese electrical equipment is found in 98% of every vehicle!!!. In America we track "Country of Origin", and everything has China as Country of Origin on all labels. Even Battle born batteries (high priced brand) are melting now a days.

BlissMobil is using a majority of Chinese parts

I guess you are not very informed.

 

[SkiFreak]

I guess you are not very informed.

Obviously you are not aware of how things are done in the world of manufacturing these days.

I am painfully aware of the dominance of China when it comes to producing stuff, but there are definite nuances to be taken into account here.
Name brand companies do indeed get things made in China, as well as other Asian countries, but it is often normal for them to embedded their own staff in the factories to ensure that their level of quality control is maintained.
I don't know how Battle Born deal with the quality of their products, but many others actively monitor how their products are built in Chinese factories.
Compare that to the stuff you can buy off eBay, Temu, AliExpress and the like, and you have a very different scenario.

Personally, I choose to use many product in my build that are made in China, some through the sites above and at other times, directly from Chinese factories, but I don't do this blindly.
What I have learnt over the years is that QA is not a big focus (for the most part) with a large amount of products made in China. There is a reason these parts are normally cheaper... they cut corners to cut costs.

As an example... years back I purchased some motorized ball valves for a hydronics project. Knowing the above, I purchase more units than I required. When I received the valves I pulled every single one apart, so I could assess their build quality. I cannot remember a single unit being without faults of some kind, but with all the units I had purchased I rebuilt sufficient units for my requirements. Those rebuilt units are still functioning perfectly, after being in my truck for over 10 years. Had I of installed the valves as supplied, the chance of that outcome would most probably not have been the same.

When a company is forced to build to a standard, the products produced will likely be of better quality and have a longer lifespan.
If that is not done, you normally get cheaper products and the reliability of those products may not be great.
Chinese companies can produce excellent products, but they can also produce less than perfect products.
Just because something is made in China does not have to equate to it being cheap rubbish, as you eluded to, but everyone should be mindful that there are reasons why some stuff is cheaper than others.

Hmm, cheap Chinese electrical equipment is found in 98% of every vehicle!!!

So... your above statement is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion.

I am speaking from experience gained over many years, not simply quoting stuff I found on the internet.

 

[gator70]

Obviously you are not aware of how things are done in the world of manufacturing these days.

I am painfully aware of the dominance of China when it comes to producing stuff, but there are definite nuances to be taken into account here.
Name brand companies do indeed get things made in China, as well as other Asian countries, but it is often normal for them to embedded their own staff in the factories to ensure that their level of quality control is maintained.
I don't know how Battle Born deal with the quality of their products, but many others actively monitor how their products are built in Chinese factories.
Compare that to the stuff you can buy off eBay, Temu, AliExpress and the like, and you have a very different scenario.

Personally, I choose to use many product in my build that are made in China, some through the sites above and at other times, directly from Chinese factories, but I don't do this blindly.
What I have learnt over the years is that QA is not a big focus (for the most part) with a large amount of products made in China. There is a reason these parts are normally cheaper... they cut corners to cut costs.

As an example... years back I purchased some motorized ball valves for a hydronics project. Knowing the above, I purchase more units than I required. When I received the valves I pulled every single one apart, so I could assess their build quality. I cannot remember a single unit being without faults of some kind, but with all the units I had purchased I rebuilt sufficient units for my requirements. Those rebuilt units are still functioning perfectly, after being in my truck for over 10 years. Had I of installed the valves as supplied, the chance of that outcome would most probably not have been the same.

When a company is forced to build to a standard, the products produced will likely be of better quality and have a longer lifespan.
If that is not done, you normally get cheaper products and the reliability of those products may not be great.
Chinese companies can produce excellent products, but they can also produce less than perfect products.
Just because something is made in China does not have to equate to it being cheap rubbish, as you eluded to, but everyone should be mindful that there are reasons why some stuff is cheaper than others.


So... your above statement is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion.

I am speaking from experience gained over many years, not simply quoting stuff I found on the internet.

Opinion, we all have one