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ITTOG

Well-known member
Yeah make sure that leash is in good condition. It is amazing how smart they are.

Where I am from the ranchers shoot them to protect their cattle. I know some that have shown pictures of over 30 coyotes shot in one night. It is sad but I understand.

Another question, how do you pronounce coyote? For me it is kah-YO-dee but I know people from other parts of the country that say KAH-yoht.

As is often the case Jerry gets my interest piqued so I begin a little reading and uncover interesting information. So I provide the infographic I was looking at for your education. I did not know they were that fast.

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tgil

Well-known member
One of the most interesting things I know about the coyotes is the litter size is biologically governed by what their territory allows. It is called "carrying capacity". If their is not enough food in their territory, the female will have a smaller litter and vice-versa on better years when food is more abundant.
What a cool experience to see so many together!
 
Riversdad.....yea I've been thinking about the 3 young coyotes that I found dead last winer in southeast Arizona.....I'll never understand killing animals for fun.....

PNWY.....yep.....?.....

Chet6.7.....I keep Tanner on a leash nearly the entire time. The only exception is when we're hanging out at the campsite and even then I'm constantly on the watch since the coyotes are wandering here day & night.....

ITTOG.....I actually just replaced his leash a week ago.....

tgil.....my research tells me that 9 is a large pack. It's mating season now and pups will arrive soon.....



When I first arrived at Lake Mead I was not too particular in regards to where I would camp. I think that's one of the aspects of camping that comes along with long term travel. If you go out for a week or two, it seems as though every campsite that you pick is of monumental importance.....on Day One Thousand Two Hundred and Six.....not so much.....

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So our first campsite here was along the gravel entrance road.....it was flat and had a fire ring.....good enough.....

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It didn't take me long to realize that I couldn't camp near a guy that ran two construction generators.....we moved further up the gravel road to yet another flat spot with a fire ring.....

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After a few more days camped along the gravel road I realized that the dust build up from the rigs going back & forth on the gravel road was more than we needed to endure.....so we moved again.....

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Our third campsite was far from the gravel road.....we took a four wheel drive trail down to camp along the lakes shoreline. This seemed at first to be an excellent campsite until the fishermen showed up.....loud Mexican music all day and all night as well. We moved to our fourth campsite after declining an invitation to fight with a drunk Mexican at 2 a.m. that was quite offended when I asked that he turn down his music.....

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Our fourth campsite has turned out to be the perfect spot to spend our days. No generators here.....no dust.....and no loud Mexican music.....we are far from everybody and everything.....

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Now with lots of idle time on our hands I decided that we needed to make the perfect campsite even more perfect. We began by picking up trash of course.....next was to remove 8 of the 9 fire rings that were built within this small area. This was not an easy chore as we filled grocery bags with nails, screws, hinges, broken glass, melted beer cans, and on & on.....

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Then I carried away all the stones that had black soot on them and used them to build one exceptional fire ring.....so exceptional that only a fool would not use it (and hopefully not build 8 more fire rings here).....

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It turned out perfect I think.....

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Next up was to restore the area that once was home to 9 fire rings and a lot of trash.....

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I've hauled hundreds of stones to that area as I attempt to make it look like it was never touched by man.....

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Tanner loves our new project.....he stays busy chasing the tennis ball while I work the day away.....

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And now we have the most perfect campsite.....

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.....but damn that hard work sure does take a toll on a man (and a dog too).....

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Pacific Northwest yetti

Expedition Medic
Yeah make sure that leash is in good condition. It is amazing how smart they are.

Where I am from the ranchers shoot them to protect their cattle. I know some that have shown pictures of over 30 coyotes shot in one night. It is sad but I understand.

Another question, how do you pronounce coyote? For me it is kah-YO-dee but I know people from other parts of the country that say KAH-yoht.

As is often the case Jerry gets my interest piqued so I begin a little reading and uncover interesting information. So I provide the infographic I was looking at for your education. I did not know they were that fast.

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The bummer about that, is that they are smart, and territorial. They can be trained If the rancher keeps killing them all, a new pack will just move in and the cycle repeats.

The better option it to shoot at/near them. Or use 12guage flash bangs. Really just the scare them when they are around the livestock/barns. They learn to stay away, and they keep other packs out....
 

ITTOG

Well-known member
The bummer about that, is that they are smart, and territorial. They can be trained If the rancher keeps killing them all, a new pack will just move in and the cycle repeats.

The better option it to shoot at/near them. Or use 12guage flash bangs. Really just the scare them when they are around the livestock/barns. They learn to stay away, and they keep other packs out....
I was not aware of that but makes sense since they are so smart.
 

AbleGuy

Officious Intermeddler
One of the most interesting things I know about the coyotes is the litter size is biologically governed by what their territory allows. It is called "carrying capacity". If their is not enough food in their territory, the female will have a smaller litter and vice-versa on better years when food is more abundant.
What a cool experience to see so many together!

I’ve also read that wildlife biologists’ studies have shown that a pack of coyotes actually will often increase its birth rates if the pack has suffered depredation. These are very interesting, adaptable animals.

We hear their eerie howling and scary screeching almost every night where we live. Their frenzied cacophony when they make a kill is blood curdling. But while what we hear seems to indicate a pack of many animals, we’ve never seen more than maybe 3-4 at a time during our hikes here...or even during our many explorations up into the Northern Rockies or Western Canada either..

These pictures you took of the big pack hanging out all together and silhouetted up on the rocks are absolutely amazing to see.
 

chet6.7

Explorer
They understand getting shot,and shot at. My neighbor was working on his property, in the day, a pack moved in and were mauling his 3 dogs, he had to run 100 yds to his truck for a shotgun, he fired a few shots into the air to stop the attack. He added a scoped carbine to his truck tools.
 
halseyt.....yes, the fourth campsite is not too bad and there's certainly much worse here. The great things about this area for long term stay are free campsites with unlimited stay, free water, free dump station, and free trash dumpsters (who doesn't love free ?). It's heavily patroled by law enforcement too.....unfortunately it is needed here.....sadly I've seen people getting arrested here and the blue lights are not an uncommon sight. There were six park rangers here Saturday night with blue flashing lights. Utah can't come soon enough.....

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And yes again, a few days ago I noticed that the severe pain from the muscle pull was nearly gone. Now it's just more of a discomfort than anything. My plan is to still go easy on it until March one.....

ITTOG.....yep, I see that. I'm looking forward to seeing your next trip report when you climb one of the Pacific Northwest volcanoes.....I know it's coming.....I think it's next.....

Alan.....I agree with that. Be safe.....

PNWY.....I read an article regarding ranchers and the coyotes. In that particular article it said that lots of ranchers have stopped the practice of slaughtering the coyotes and have learned to live with them. I recall the article saying that the ranchers appreciated the coyotes for keeping the rodent population in check. Seems like you're in agreement.....

Able Guy.....I was very patient in getting those shots. I wanted so bad to get the entire pack in one photograph but several of the coyotes always stood guard away from the remainder of the pack.....

Chet6.7.....I wonder how I would feel in a situation like that ? I honestly don't know.....I just hope it never happens to us.....


I feel like the coyotes here may be tamer than coyotes elsewhere. Here they roam the camping areas without threat from most people. There are quite a few jerks that come here so I would imagine that they get harrrassed from time to time. The coyote photographed below comes by often.....never appears to be a threat.....

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Looks like an invitation for Tanner to come out & play.....

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