My new vehicle: 2005 Nissan Frontier

articulate

Expedition Leader
That picture doesn't lie about the welds. Someone described them as a "roll of coins." I guess that's good. :)

By far, that article was the funnest (?) one to put together for ExPo. Glad you enjoyed it. It hit me like a ton of bricks when I remembered Graham mocking the chrome on the front, so I had to pay respects to him.
:eek:rngartis
 

gjackson

FRGS
Dude, what's that blinding reflection coming from behind the bullbar?!! Did you install something incorrectly? I can't see. . . . .

:littlefriend: :hehe:

cheers
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
In the review, Marks says:
What about air bag compliance?
This is a common question about aftermarket bumpers. Air bags are triggered by sensors and inflation happens when there is a collision force equal to running into a brick wall at 10 to 15 miles per hour (16 to 24 km per hour). The sensors receive information from an accelerometer built into a microchip. Air bag sensors - which are most often inside the steering column and dash - do not detect frontal impact, but when the vehicle experiences a severly abrupt stop. An aftermarket bumper doesn't pose any problem that interferes with the air bag sensors - however, this conclusion is not definitive for all makes and models.
I've wondered about this since only a couple of the shops claim airbag compliance. Are all bull bars are inherently airbag compliant, then? So, is it (and I know this is speculation) a legal thing that they say they are not? My guess is it's not that they won't go off in an accident, but that they might go off at too slow of a speed. Just wondering out loud, bumper looks really good.
 

articulate

Expedition Leader
DaveInDenver said:
I've wondered about this since only a couple of the shops claim airbag compliance. Are all bull bars are inherently airbag compliant, then? So, is it (and I know this is speculation) a legal thing that they say they are not? My guess is it's not that they won't go off in an accident, but that they might go off at too slow of a speed. Just wondering out loud, bumper looks really good.
You bring up an interesting point. In theory, a steel bumper is going to make the air bags more sensitive. Regaining OEM sensitivity is the purpose of "crush cans": they soften the blow during impact thereby giving the accelerometer a little bit of margin before the sensors say, "Blow boys! Blow!" The point I was trying to make - and now I see this can be fuzzy - is that air bag sensors aren't in, or attached to, the bumper. That's a common misconception. "What did you do with the airbag sensors when you installed the bumper?"

Actually, now that we're discussing this, I'd bet that true airbag compliance would keep the original level of sensitivity by building in a way for the bumper to "give" a little during a crash. Such as with crush cans.

Funny and related story:
After I installed the bumper, my wife and I went to the bookstore on a . . . um . . . Friday night. We parked next to another Frontier that had a damaged front bumper. So, I left a note on the windshield explaining that I saw the bumper and offered up mine (FOC). A lady called the next day and she talked me into installing it on her truck for her. We got to talking about what caused the damage, and it was a security gate at the parking lot where she worked. It malfunctioned as she drove through, and it smacked her as she drove way less than 10 MPH (she idled through). Her airbags blew and the gate left a crease in the bumper where it hit. Bummer, huh?

She was kind of nervous about me installing the bumper because she thought I needed to "be careful of the airbag sensors." ;)

Anyway, each vehicle make is going to be different. The Frontier has that (lovely) chrome bumper "shell" attached to the real steel McCoy (in this picture). That bumper shell would likely take some of the impact before the accelerometer tells the airbag sensors that it's showtime. My educated theory (from working on the bumper area) is that the amount is negligible since there are no crush cans from the Nissan factory.

But dammit, Dave, you're making me rethink what I put in the article . . . :punk03:
This is worth doing some research with Nissan if someone with knowledge will talk to me.
 

articulate

Expedition Leader
flyingwil said:
What a bunch of freaks!

Who gets stuck on such a tiny hill?
DaveInDenver said:
Oh, Wil, you are just spoiled since you drive a Toyota. Not everyone can handle the off highway stuff as easily. :)
erin said:
That reminded me of another little hill he had some problems with, good you have the winch now.:rolleyes:
If you don't have good friends, who will be there to make fun of you? Buncha worthless drunks you are.
My favorite kind . . .:friday:




But Dave, tsk, tsk, tsk! When you're as good of a driver as I am, you too will get bored behind the wheel of a superior vehicle and need a little challenge.



I'm proud that what should be a serious discussion with words like "reliability" and "durability" and "evaluate" keeps turning into a funfest with some wacky dudes and comical responses. Scott tries so hard to create a rock solid resource, but oh, stay out of those Mark Stephens threads if you want anything meaningful. You guys are killing me by perpetuating the reputation I managed to secure by hanging out with KC.




kcowyo said:
[hijack]

Don't we get new smilies after increments of 500 new members? We're approaching 1500 now.....:cow:

[byejack]
And this qualifies for the most random comment ever.
 

The BN Guy

Expedition Leader
I've been wanting a set of those for years but not many people carry them around here. Also wondering what the cost is on them.
 

articulate

Expedition Leader
:Mechanic:
I was a busy SOB creating the rear "bed deck" or platform or bed cap custom thing. I don't know what to call it.

Here's the deal: simply covers the open bed for nearly 100% enclosure. Coated in bed liner, made of steel and aluminum, and sports Yakima load bars on top. I also managed to incorporate the OEM utili-tracks from the bed . . . for now, this is what you get ;)
rear_deck.jpg


The internet is a wild place sometimes. I received an email from a guy in Texas who was upgrading his skid plates from his NISMO. He offered to sell me his OEM plates at a decent deal, so I took him up on it. I'm in favor of doing a few mutually beneficial transactions. I don't know if I would have ever taken the time to go source these things, and he came to me. And he got to buffer the cost of his new plates. He even sent me the bolts, so I didn't have to screw around with figuring out the thread. Sweet. Bolted on in about 20 minutes:
skid_plates.jpg


That's the news from the home office.
The fun continues on!

:beer:
 

erin

Explorer
Rear deck looks good Mark, that ought to hold those pesky bikes now:shakin:

Good find on the skids, especially the hardware.
 

kcowyo

ExPo Original
Wow, all that in just one post? :smilies27

As my creative writing teacher used to say to me, "Interesting......"
 

articulate

Expedition Leader
jeffryscott said:
the karma of the front bumper comes back to you.:)
Credits used, yeah. I need another opportunity for goodwill now.

erin said:
...that ought to hold those pesky bikes now:shakin:
:arabia:
This worked for a while:
funny_bikes.jpg


kcowyo said:
Wow, all that in just one post? :smilies27

As my creative writing teacher used to say to me, "Interesting......"
Misguided little punks we are, eh?


FourByLand said:
Got any full shots of the bed with the modification? Thanks.
To a degree, yes. No many. Here goes......

Arial view:
rear_deck2.jpg

The load bars are 66" long, and I think I may get longer ones, but I haven't fitted the Eezi-Awn yet along with a pair of bikes.

Also, I used garage door weather stripping where the deck rests on the bed rails. :)

Inside the truck bed:
inside_bed.jpg


I'll take care of some photos of the details/close ups shortly.


In the mean time, raise your goblet of rock
:rockon:
 

p1michaud

Expedition Leader
Cool rig.

Mark,
Very cool rig. I don't venture in the "other" folders too much since I drive a Toyota but I'm glad I did. I must admit to following your build under the Portal Project Vehicles. Nice work!
Cheers :beer:,
P
 

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