New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

mpinco

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Land Rover Defender + Honda Element Mashup Is So Wrong, It’s Right

A perfect front end swap....

The team over at car front swaps has made their mark on the new Land Rover Defender grafting the front end of the Honda Element on to the front of the Defender. The results are surprisingly cohesive which is probably not something Defender fans want to hear right now. But there’s no denying that the front end of the Honda Element looks right at home on the Land Rover Defender matching the rest of the design seamlessly..........."

 

JeepColorado

Well-known member
Land Rover Defender + Honda Element Mashup Is So Wrong, It’s Right

A perfect front end swap....

The team over at car front swaps has made their mark on the new Land Rover Defender grafting the front end of the Honda Element on to the front of the Defender. The results are surprisingly cohesive which is probably not something Defender fans want to hear right now. But there’s no denying that the front end of the Honda Element looks right at home on the Land Rover Defender matching the rest of the design seamlessly..........."


That is hilarious!!!! Every time my wife sees a Honda Element she says look it's a Defender.
 

catmann

Active member
I find it hard to believe this clip that is burnt on the 4cyl engine never had an issue in all the testing done by LR. Do the prototype vehicles get assembled in a different manner (more slowly, in a different location, only by the top-level workers, etc)? It just seems like something that would have occured in the inital testing phases....
 

Blaise

Well-known member
I find it hard to believe this clip that is burnt on the 4cyl engine never had an issue in all the testing done by LR. Do the prototype vehicles get assembled in a different manner (more slowly, in a different location, only by the top-level workers, etc)? It just seems like something that would have occured in the inital testing phases....

Not sure what clip we're talking about but modern vehicle R&D, supplier qualification and test/cert is all an extremely well controlled process.

Not that you'd know that from reading forums. ENGINEERS ARE IDIOTS :p
 

JeepColorado

Well-known member
I find it hard to believe this clip that is burnt on the 4cyl engine never had an issue in all the testing done by LR. Do the prototype vehicles get assembled in a different manner (more slowly, in a different location, only by the top-level workers, etc)? It just seems like something that would have occured in the inital testing phases....


It does seem odd- maybe it's just a one-off manufacturing issue. Jeep had an issue with several hundreds of Wranglers because a computer controlled welder got off and several were made before they realized it.
 

T-Willy

Well-known member
I find it hard to believe this clip that is burnt on the 4cyl engine never had an issue in all the testing done by LR. Do the prototype vehicles get assembled in a different manner (more slowly, in a different location, only by the top-level workers, etc)? It just seems like something that would have occured in the inital testing phases....

I had the same thought. They either did not test the production configuration or materials, or production/assembly yielded a configuration different than what was tested.
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
Ground clearance is the same.

Here's one crossing the savanna of Tanzania:

honda-element-photo-9772-s-original.jpg

#overlandapproved
 

DieselRanger

Well-known member
I had the same thought. They either did not test the production configuration or materials, or production/assembly yielded a configuration different than what was tested.
This would only be true if many of them have this problem. If this one is the only one, or one of a statistical few, then it's a QA escape not a design issue. I suspect this will be the case.

Rest assured LR is going over that car to see what happened.
 

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