What does an LC have to do with a jeep?
I want a Jeep truck made by Jeep not by the half dozen companies that have messed up jeep in the last couple decades.
New Jeep Pick Up to be unveiled...The Gladiator
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I want a Jeep truck made by Jeep not by the half dozen companies that have messed up jeep in the last couple decades.
smlobx
Wanderer
The 79 Series will probably be the closest competitor to the Gladiator. Pick ups like the Taco, Colorado and new Ranger will be a distant second in the US market.
Todd780
OverCamper
Like you want Willys-Overland to build you a new Jeep pick up?
GB_Willys_2014
Well-known member
Not necessarily.
A Tradesman 2500 with the PW package is $49k on the configurator, iirc, which will probably be less than the Rubicon version of the Gladiator.
Therein lies a dilemma. Creature comforts aside, does one pay more for less?
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Aesthetics are ofc purely opinion, but I like the look of the Gladiator.
DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
That is pretty much exactly what I think a lot of us would like, just too bad its such a physically big truck. I definitely do not need the size of a 3/4 even if unfortunately the configuration is right.
GB_Willys_2014
Well-known member
100% agree.
The size of the 2500 is a serious limitation; it is a compromise in and of itself.
Clutch
<---Pass
Gas mileage too. PW gets 10-11. Stock gas Gladiator should be near 19-20. Diesel will push it closer to 30. You're paying more for less, but it makes it up in other areas.
There was a F250 sitting beside my 1st Gen Tacoma at work the other day...almost looked like my little Tacoma would fit in the bed of that thing. Those 3/4-1 Ton trucks are fricken huge.
Was hoping they would of tossed on the retro Gladiator front end on it, but oh well.
rkj__
Adventurer
That's a neat look, but maybe a little too polarizing for the general public. Enthusiasts would probably praise it, but I'm not sure Jenny the yoga instructor would love it.
Maddmatt
Explorer
So - my opinion, for what it's worth...
Jeep will sell these just a bit faster than they can make them. Within this group we all tend to view vehicles through our own, real-world use, lens.
Most of America couldn't tell you where the Rubicon trail was, or White Rim, or what BLM means - but I sure see a lot of Jeep Rubicons and LR4's with full roof racks in the school pickup line.
Vehicle purchases are primarily emotional, not need based. If we bought vehicles based on actual need, a late '80's Escort Wagon would be the perfect car for about 80% of the people on the road.
I'm no different, and in my advancing age I'm fine with that. I am at Home Depot weekly, but the majority of my purchases would fit just fine in my wife's Hyundai Santa Fe (with 99k on it, and no issues, by the way). But instead, I drive a Nissan Titan. Was super useful bringing my motorcycle home (another unnecessary, but oh-so necessary, emotional purchase) and it saved us the delivery fee when we bought a new couch earlier this year. And I took the leaves to the leaf dump. But otherwise, I really don't need this truck. I like how it sounds, I like how it drives (especially now that I've leveled the front end with new Bilstein 5100's), I like how it looks, and I generally just like it. So I drive it.
Add to that lens my personal historical filter (I grew up with a wide range of Jeeps), and I am absolutely a future customer of this Jeep truck. In 2-3 years, by the time the first lease returns are getting back to the dealers, the Titan will be tired (it has 165k on it now), the price will be right, and I will 100% be shopping for an unnecessary, lightly used, ex-school pickup, faux-leather, backup camera and video game installed Jeep "truck". And once a year I will take the leaves to the dump. I can't wait, because there is very little else on the market today that actually appeals to me.
Jeep will sell these just a bit faster than they can make them. Within this group we all tend to view vehicles through our own, real-world use, lens.
Most of America couldn't tell you where the Rubicon trail was, or White Rim, or what BLM means - but I sure see a lot of Jeep Rubicons and LR4's with full roof racks in the school pickup line.
Vehicle purchases are primarily emotional, not need based. If we bought vehicles based on actual need, a late '80's Escort Wagon would be the perfect car for about 80% of the people on the road.
I'm no different, and in my advancing age I'm fine with that. I am at Home Depot weekly, but the majority of my purchases would fit just fine in my wife's Hyundai Santa Fe (with 99k on it, and no issues, by the way). But instead, I drive a Nissan Titan. Was super useful bringing my motorcycle home (another unnecessary, but oh-so necessary, emotional purchase) and it saved us the delivery fee when we bought a new couch earlier this year. And I took the leaves to the leaf dump. But otherwise, I really don't need this truck. I like how it sounds, I like how it drives (especially now that I've leveled the front end with new Bilstein 5100's), I like how it looks, and I generally just like it. So I drive it.
Add to that lens my personal historical filter (I grew up with a wide range of Jeeps), and I am absolutely a future customer of this Jeep truck. In 2-3 years, by the time the first lease returns are getting back to the dealers, the Titan will be tired (it has 165k on it now), the price will be right, and I will 100% be shopping for an unnecessary, lightly used, ex-school pickup, faux-leather, backup camera and video game installed Jeep "truck". And once a year I will take the leaves to the dump. I can't wait, because there is very little else on the market today that actually appeals to me.
Buliwyf
Viking with a Hammer
Our dirt roads are 15' wide, our jeep roads are maybe 5' wide if we're lucky. So size isn't a deal breaker here. Jeeps don't even fit on their own trails. Bikes and bigs.
But getting high centered is. This jeep truck looks about the same as a pickup there. But maybe it'll have a nice under belly to slide on. Armor plate or not, you can't drag a fullsize fuel tank on the ground.
But getting high centered is. This jeep truck looks about the same as a pickup there. But maybe it'll have a nice under belly to slide on. Armor plate or not, you can't drag a fullsize fuel tank on the ground.
Clutch
<---Pass
I dig it, but I like retro vintage stuff. Probably my all time favorite body style of a pickup. The Challenger for an example is a pretty good looking to me, did grow up with muscle cars is probably why. Think if you're going to call it a Gladiator...it should look like a Gladiator. Maybe it should of been called a Wrangler Ute instead???... but that just semantics, ya know.
I don't know what it is, but something so right about the body lines on 'em.
https://www.jeepheritage.com/1981-jeep-j10-honcho-sportside
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GB_Willys_2014
Well-known member
^^^
Agree.
I know this requires broad appeal to all the soccer moms and yoga instructors (else it becomes unobtainium), but the J series trucks are perfect, visually.
Agree.
I know this requires broad appeal to all the soccer moms and yoga instructors (else it becomes unobtainium), but the J series trucks are perfect, visually.
Todd780
OverCamper
Yup, I think the pricing will be critical as well. I think it will be a 60K truck in Rubicon guise. Personally when comparing it to a ZR2 or TRD Pro for several thousands less, it'll make it a tough sell...