New Jeep Pick Up to be unveiled...The Gladiator

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Car companies need to stop doing throw back vehicles. It just disappointed enthusiast and taints the name.

I would take a new Challenger Hellcat in Plum Crazy...over an original.

Gimme this for slab arsejackery...

...and this for dirt, sand, mud and rock buffoonery.

 

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I got a ticket for 20 over today, if I had the hellcat I'd be in jail.

 

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I got a ticket for 20 over today, if I had the hellcat I'd be in jail.

Why I drive those underpowered turd Toyotas...

 

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i just got a $118 for going 34 kilometers over on sunday.

 

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i just got a $118 for going 34 kilometers over on sunday.

bummer

I went through a phase of constantly getting speeding tickets. Now the cruise is set at whatever the speed limit is...no matter if it is 25 or 80 mph.

 

[Ovrlnd Rd]

I got a ticket for 20 over today, if I had the hellcat I'd be in jail.

Not to rub salt in the wound but Thanksgiving Day will mark 26 years since my last speeding ticket. We were just coming back from meeting my Mother-in-Law for the 1st time and got it rolling into Moab, UT heading back to Idaho from NM. My wife gets really mad every time I mention that "anniversary."

 

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@Ovrlnd Rd

That bus in your avatar...think i have been pass that. Is it this one?

 

[docwatson]

Seems like ever thread on here compares the Gladiator to the Power Wagon and complains about the short bed. This isn't a 3/4 ton its a midsize. Granted the PW has solid axles and lockers which I think is why everyone is jumping there. They are still very different vehicles.

Have you all looked at the bed lengths of most trucks? All the crewcab midsizes are ~5ft and the halftons are ~5.5ft. A 5ft bed can be plenty practical unless you truly need a truck which most truck owners don't.

These will sell, volume will be price dependent.

 

[Dan Grec]

its not called a scrambler, because a scrambler was cool little standard cab with small bed for stuff. it maintained offroadability with a 103 inch wheelbase. a standard cab jeep with a small bed would be a scrambler. feel free to call it yo mama if you want, it still wont be yo mama.

this is called a gladiator because its a name that was in the jeep trademark bucket, and it too had a 120 inch wheelbase. great for a pickup bed, but less than ideal for offroading. too bad the new one doesnt have a pickup bed. you'd have to disassemble a push mower to get it to fit. it has the same payload as an SUV, but without fold down seats and roof.

It's for show.

now, someone in the aftermarket could make a standard cab out of it with door inserts, and an ursa minor style top, and the story would change....

I have a suspicion this 4 door one will be called the gladiator, and if and when they make a much shorter 2 door version, it will be a called the scrambler.
AEV seem to think they will make a 2 door one.
Fingers crossed.

-Dan

 

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people bought that fugly avalanche and the even fuglier ridgeline.

 

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Seems like ever thread on here compares the Gladiator to the Power Wagon and complains about the short bed. This isn't a 3/4 ton its a midsize. Granted the PW has solid axles and lockers which I think is why everyone is jumping there. They are still very different vehicles.

Don't think it is comparing a 3/4 ton to a midsize for capability, but what you can get cost-wise. Willing to bet the S Model will be around $35K...maybe a little less. Be priced competitively with other midsizes. And sure, some fullsizes. But some don't want the size or poor fuel economy of a fullsize even though the prices are similar.

Have you all looked at the bed lengths of most trucks? All the crewcab midsizes are ~5ft and the halftons are ~5.5ft. A 5ft bed can be plenty practical unless you truly need a truck which most truck owners don't.

Yep, most don't buy trucks for work anymore. If I was buying a truck for actual work, it certainly wouldn't be a pickup of any sort. It would be a cab over with a flatbed. Get the most useable hauling space out of one of those. Damn glad I don't need a truck for work anymore...only for running about & play, mostly.

 

[Wallygator]

its not called a scrambler, because a scrambler was cool little standard cab with small bed for stuff. it maintained offroadability with a 103 inch wheelbase. a standard cab jeep with a small bed would be a scrambler. feel free to call it yo mama if you want, it still wont be yo mama.

this is called a gladiator because its a name that was in the jeep trademark bucket, and it too had a 120 inch wheelbase. great for a pickup bed, but less than ideal for offroading. too bad the new one doesnt have a pickup bed. you'd have to disassemble a push mower to get it to fit. it has the same payload as an SUV, but without fold down seats and roof.

It's for show.

now, someone in the aftermarket could make a standard cab out of it with door inserts, and an ursa minor style top, and the story would change....

Yeah I don't know about yo mama but mine really has no interest in buying the Scrambler and neither do I but let's break this down a little.......

How can a dbl cab vehicle that tows up to 7650 lbs and has a payload of 1600 lbs in the 5 foot steel bed, available front and rear lockers, solid axles, available diesel, available manual trans, be only for show??? Again, your bias is clouding the facts. This vehicle will be plenty capable up until it breaks.

The Colorado, in comparison since it is a direct competitor to the Scrambler, has a 5'2" bed in it's double cab configuration. It can only tow 7000 lbs and has a payload of 1590 lbs in that configuration.

The Tacoma Dbl Cab, another midsize competitor of the Scrambler, can tow 6500 lbs and has a payload rating of 1155 lbs. It's bed is also only 5 feet long, same as the Scrambler.

The Ford Ranger..maximum tow rating of 7500 lbs when equipped with the optional tow package....having trouble finding the payload on the dbl cab but it looks to be a 5 foot bed also...

Yeah the Scrambler is very competitive to others in it's class.

 

[Mako1114]

So is it rumor or fact that the EcoDiesel will not be available on the initial release?

Cheers

 

[moabian]

Everything is rumor at this point, but it is a pretty well-accepted rumor that the diesel will not be available until about a year after initial release.

 

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Yeah I don't know about yo mama but mine really has no interest in buying the Scrambler and neither do I but let's break this down a little.......

How can a dbl cab vehicle that tows up to 7650 lbs and has a payload of 1600 lbs in the 5 foot steel bed, available front and rear lockers, solid axles, available diesel, available manual trans, be only for show??? Again, your bias is clouding the facts. This vehicle will be plenty capable up until it breaks.

The Colorado, in comparison since it is a direct competitor to the Scrambler, has a 5'2" bed in it's double cab configuration. It can only tow 7000 lbs and has a payload of 1590 lbs in that configuration.

The Tacoma Dbl Cab, another midsize competitor of the Scrambler, can tow 6500 lbs and has a payload rating of 1155 lbs. It's bed is also only 5 feet long, same as the Scrambler.

The Ford Ranger..maximum tow rating of 7500 lbs when equipped with the optional tow package....having trouble finding the payload on the dbl cab but it looks to be a 5 foot bed also...

Yeah the Scrambler is very competitive to others in it's class.

Don't know why zimm thinks the new Gladiator is going to be worthless. The original Scrambler's bed was 4'8"....the new one will be a touch more than that plus a back seat. Plus have a better payload, towing, more power and decent fuel economy.

Betcha aftermarket companies are going to be Scrambling to manufacture goodies for the new platform.