New Jeep Pick Up to be unveiled...The Gladiator

[BigSwede]

There is a small strip club on the Iron Range in Gilbert, Minnesota called the Gladiator...lovely place, so I've heard.

 

[Dan Grec]

Everything is rumor at this point, but it is a pretty well-accepted rumor that the diesel will not be available until about a year after initial release.

Which is extremely disappointing. I hope they can at least get it into the JL in the coming months.

-Dan

 

[rkj__]

Which is extremely disappointing. I hope they can at least get it into the JL in the coming months.

-Dan

The Colorado had a similar roll-out with only gas in 2015, then diesel in 2016, then ZR2 in 2017. The staggered roll outs allow for not only a more relaxed development schedule, but it also keeps the truck in the news year after year.

 

[STREGA]

For me a extra cab version with a 6' bed in a Ruby trim level would be the shite ?. Sure it might be a bit long to be the "perfect" wheeler for a purist but I'am sure it will get me where I want to go with all the stuff I want to bring with me, ain't happening with a 2 door JK/L. And if I drive it to the grocery store and someone is offended by that I don't really care.

 

[docwatson]

Don't think it is comparing a 3/4 ton to a midsize for capability, but what you can get cost-wise.

By that thinking maybe we should compare against a $35k Camry (I'll get better fuel economy, the trunk is about the same size and it will still handle most FS roads).

Vehicles compete in their class for a specific reason, because each class has trade offs and competing outside your class in all areas is nigh impossible.

 

[docwatson]

How can a dbl cab vehicle that tows up to 7650 lbs and has a payload of 1600 lbs in the 5 foot steel bed, available front and rear lockers, solid axles, available diesel, available manual trans, be only for show??? Again, your bias is clouding the facts. This vehicle will be plenty capable up until it breaks.

I agree with your summation. It will be interesting to see how tow rating and payload play out among the actually models and options though. My guess is the Rubicon version will have a decently lower payload once they add all the extras.

 

[Mako1114]

I seem to recall that initial JT information released indicated no Rubicon level so glad to see that has changed. Hopefully the Rubicon trim will be offered on the first model year. Personally, I look forward to replacing my 12MPG Nissan Titan for an EcoDiesel powered Gladiator with Rubicon package. I was nervous that the Gladiator would have issues towing my 5K fishing boat but looks like it will be good to go.

Cheers

 

[Todd780]

How can a dbl cab vehicle that tows up to 7650 lbs and has a payload of 1600 lbs in the 5 foot steel bed, available front and rear lockers, solid axles, available diesel, available manual trans, be only for show??? Again, your bias is clouding the facts. This vehicle will be plenty capable up until it breaks.

The Colorado, in comparison since it is a direct competitor to the Scrambler, has a 5'2" bed in it's double cab configuration. It can only tow 7000 lbs and has a payload of 1590 lbs in that configuration.

The Tacoma Dbl Cab, another midsize competitor of the Scrambler, can tow 6500 lbs and has a payload rating of 1155 lbs. It's bed is also only 5 feet long, same as the Scrambler.

The Ford Ranger..maximum tow rating of 7500 lbs when equipped with the optional tow package....having trouble finding the payload on the dbl cab but it looks to be a 5 foot bed also...

Have you all looked at the bed lengths of most trucks? All the crewcab midsizes are ~5ft and the halftons are ~5.5ft. A 5ft bed can be plenty practical unless you truly need a truck which most truck owners don't.
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Agree with the above. For me the 5'5" bed has worked out fine. I've hauled furniture (Shelving units, book cases, workbench, couches, china cabinet, etc..., appliances, (fridge, dishwasher) loaded it up for camping trips and hauled multiple other loads in it. Never felt like my 5' bed was useless. But, too each their own.

 

[doug720]

There is an ass for every seat, and I'm sure Jeep will sell the Gladiator for a premium.

What I don't understand is how people believe manufacturers tow ratings.

Anyone who actually tows more than 5,000 lb trailers, IMHO, understands a short, narrow, and light mid size truck or Jeep, or even 1/2 ton trucks, is a poor tow vehicle.

I tow a 7k lb trailer regularly with our class A rv, and used to tow a 10+k lb boat with a 1 ton PU. I have moved the 7k Featherlight with our 2016 F150, and cant imagine towing it on the highway even though it is rated at around 12k lbs!

On a Ranger, Colorado or Gladiator, the 10% tongue weight of a 7500 lb trailer would leave little for cargo, or even 4 people. JMHO.

Ass for every seat...

 

[Clutch]

By that thinking maybe we should compare against a $35k Camry (I'll get better fuel economy, the trunk is about the same size and it will still handle most FS roads).

Vehicles compete in their class for a specific reason, because each class has trade offs and competing outside your class in all areas is nigh impossible.

Someone said they rather have a Power Wagon over the Gladiator is where the cost comparison is coming from.

The Gladiator is a midsize truck truck, competing against other midsize trucks.

You can’t toss 37” tires with a 2” lift on a Camry...sure a car would get better gas mileage...but as much as I “should” get a car for commuting like driving my truck better. I try to like cars...but can’t bring myself to.

Me I rather have The Gladiator for a daily do it all vehicle. Much like what I have been doing with Toyota trucks for the last 26+ years.

 

[zimm]

towing with a jeep? who gives a ********. you can tow a camper with a crown vic. why spend all that money on an open bed with no capacity or rear load bearing? because it LOOKS offroad?

hell, if you want live axles, coils, and a real small pickup because you need a REAL pickup, blow 60k on a defender hi cap. 3500 pound payload an actual bed, Jennifer from the block wont have the same truck as you, and in 3 years you'll make 20%.....

Then again Dodge already has a truck for that, but it looks like the uncool culture of real work, so this strech limo will sit on the lot for TOM shoe wearing manbun hipsters to drive to the micro-brew with thier carbon bikes flung over a tailgate pad because the bed is too short for a bicycle with the wheel off.

i bet 30% of these end up with with chicks that put on growly grills and eyelashes.

 

[zimm]

in the end, if you think you NEED a 1600 pound payload (total with the 4 passengers) open box, you really dont actually need an open box.

Nothing wrong with being a pretender. who does 200 in a ferrari? Its just hilarious when someone doesn't think they are.

 

[Smileyshaun]

man some of you guys get all worked up over nothing , arguing over a vehicle that's not even available to the public yet about it's towing ability . People constantly complain that vehicles are starting to all look the same then when something comes out that looks way different then they complain it doesnt look like other rigs . How about we wait for some people to get a test drive in and see how it works out .

 

[Clutch]

towing with a jeep? who gives a ****. you can tow a camper with a crown vic. why spend all that money on an open bed with no capacity or rear load bearing? because it LOOKS offroad?

hell, if you want live axles, coils, and a real small pickup because you need a REAL pickup, blow 60k on a defender hi cap. 3500 pound payload an actual bed, Jennifer from the block wont have the same truck as you, and in 3 years you'll make 20%.....

Then again Dodge already has a truck for that, but it looks like the uncool culture of real work, so this strech limo will sit on the lot for TOM shoe wearing manbun hipsters to drive to the micro-brew with thier carbon bikes flung over a tailgate pad because the bed is too short for a bicycle with the wheel off.

i bet 30% of these end up with with chicks that put on growly grills and eyelashes.

Crown Vic???...ever noticed that most people who drive auction bought decommissioned government Crown Vic's...look like they spent some time in the back of one.

Aren't you tossing a LS in a 60? But not upgrading to coil overs? Talkin' about wanting to look cool and no substance...all that power in a buck board. Doesn't make any sense there zimmer.


c'mon....zimmy...please toss an 80 chassis under thar.

Or abandon the whole thing and go buy a V8 4Runner or Sequoia...will do everything that 60 will do, and better. Just won't be cool.

 

[Clutch]

in the end, if you think you NEED a 1600 pound payload (total with the 4 passengers) open box, you really dont actually need an open box.

Nothing wrong with being a pretender. who does 200 in a ferrari? Its just hilarious when someone doesn't think they are.

Betcha a lot of DCSB Tacoma owners making the switch. As that is the best selling cab/bed configuration. Pain in the ass to fit 35-37's on a Tacoma. Fricken breeze on a Jeep. Sure there will be pretenders as there is with anything...but I see a lot going out using and abusing them.

See every bit of that 1600 lbs payload getting eaten. Heck, 2000 lbs would of been better.

The guys who SAS Tacomas...me thinks who will get excited over the Glad. Don't get mad get Glad!