Changed my order to the XL on the 170, my 144 Chassis was delayed and 170 was available at the port, I think we will appreciate the additional space!
Nomad Euphoria RV - Interesting option
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We have one on order, chassis is secured and waiting for build.
GR8ADV
Explorer
We just spent a couple hrs at the Colorado Expo looking at these. Here is my 2 Pennie’s; take it for what it’s worth. YMMV.
First and foremost, I tell no one what is right for them. We all have our own needs for a vehicle. My thoughts are nothing more than my thoughts, and are based on our needs and desires which are likely different than yours.
That said, here is what we found.
What we liked:
Very well constructed. Excellent hardware and components. Definitely should be on anyone’s short list. The aluminum powder coated cabinets and hardware exceeded my expectations.
The layout is best for two in both the 144 and 170. In the 170 the n/s beds are perfect and represent the best bed layout with no crawl overs. The ‘night table’ between is brilliant.
Optional seatbelts for the rear for additional people.
Great garage space. All the b-box designs are excellent in this regard.
What we didn’t like:
On the 170, sleeping more than two would require crawling over person 3 and 4 for a night time pee.
The bulkhead isolates the driver and passenger seats. As such the only house seating in both size is two benches facing each other. Gone is the best feature of a van which is the swiveling front seats to maximize seating space.
The biggest no go for us is that the bulkhead, in conjunction with the design, removes a significant amount of room from the driver and passenger seats area to allow full slide back on the seat rails and any reasonable reclining of the seat back. Possibly for shorter people this would not be an issue. I am not sure why they used a full 1.5-2 inch composite panel for the bulkhead. The space lost is crucial for us.
In summary, they deserve a good look for anyone in the market.
First and foremost, I tell no one what is right for them. We all have our own needs for a vehicle. My thoughts are nothing more than my thoughts, and are based on our needs and desires which are likely different than yours.
That said, here is what we found.
What we liked:
Very well constructed. Excellent hardware and components. Definitely should be on anyone’s short list. The aluminum powder coated cabinets and hardware exceeded my expectations.
The layout is best for two in both the 144 and 170. In the 170 the n/s beds are perfect and represent the best bed layout with no crawl overs. The ‘night table’ between is brilliant.
Optional seatbelts for the rear for additional people.
Great garage space. All the b-box designs are excellent in this regard.
What we didn’t like:
On the 170, sleeping more than two would require crawling over person 3 and 4 for a night time pee.
The bulkhead isolates the driver and passenger seats. As such the only house seating in both size is two benches facing each other. Gone is the best feature of a van which is the swiveling front seats to maximize seating space.
The biggest no go for us is that the bulkhead, in conjunction with the design, removes a significant amount of room from the driver and passenger seats area to allow full slide back on the seat rails and any reasonable reclining of the seat back. Possibly for shorter people this would not be an issue. I am not sure why they used a full 1.5-2 inch composite panel for the bulkhead. The space lost is crucial for us.
In summary, they deserve a good look for anyone in the market.
Great info on the front seat. As a very tall person who can’t stand upright in a sprinter I was thinking this is the first Sprinter I fit in, head room wise. Too bad they don’t allow full slide back.
Lack of 4 proper sleeping/sitting space is an issue.
What else worked better on the show?
When we ordered ours Steve was able to modify the bulkhead to accommodate more leg room in the cab. I am 6'3 and can drive very comfortable. Picked up last week and drove 1400 miles home to Florida. Link to our rig
GR8ADV
Explorer
That is WAY COOL. He seemed like a fantastic guy. And it was refreshing to talk with someone who actually understood travel.
I would love to see the result. Can you post here?
Have you taken delivery yet? I'd love to hear some honest feedback from a new owner!
Have new Euphoria owners taken delivery yet? Love to hear what you think so far. The rigs look really solid but I'm a little edgy because this is a new type of box construction for Nomad where they are doing final assemply in-house - compared with others like Rossmonster that are buying the boxes fully assembled. Love the design but would really appreciate any real world experience with Euphoria.
Also, I hear that they have moved to a dual Lithionics 51v battery system - 16.8 KW and possibly the matching lithionics alternator as well.
Also, I hear that they have moved to a dual Lithionics 51v battery system - 16.8 KW and possibly the matching lithionics alternator as well.
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PathNotTaken
Member
What you’re looking in that photo is the factory mounting pucks. The mounting puck ujoint is talking about in the video is not finished yet and the subframe is on stock mounts for now. Justin from ujoint and I worked together on a lot of the subframe design based on our subframe, and we introduced them to Perryparts as it was my idea after doing coil springs to use a 3d printed bushing, of which Perry parts is the leading manufacture in the automotive space. (For bump stops). There’s nothing inherently wrong with a die spring for this application and there’s actually a couple benefits, but the main issue was based around the install clearances in the frame rail, and easy of tweaking/manufacturing where the printed bushing shines.
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PathNotTaken
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We used the same panel manufacture that nomad uses. I can’t comment on nomads quality standards, but I can say assembling these boxes is incredibly simple. With proper lifting equipment and a few hands, any shop could do this with ease and there are relatively few ways to mess it up. It’s like legos. I wouldn’t be concerned about them assembling the box at all!
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texasnielsen
Outdoorsman
We have owned a Euphoria XL since late August. Came out of a well-known manufacturer’s Sprinter van conversion after 6 years of use. Wife was wanting more ”comfort”, aka something more akin to an “RV” without losing too much of the ”van” benefits. With length and height being critical measurements for us (after what would be suspension, tire, etc., enhancements) it was critical not to exceed 11’5” due to our shop’s garage entry points. (Was built in 1982 with an 18’ wide door but sadly not a true 12’ height.).
This door entry constraint led to a year long struggle to find the right vehicle for “us”. The Euphoria XL TB fits that requirement and then some.
The twin bed lay out has removed the daily climb overs to use the head as one of us usually has a midnight need to recycle fluids. Love the quality of the cabinets which other OEM’s still haven’t figured out that the best product in an Offroad vehicle for durability is aluminum. Some brands we investigated had absolutely the worst cabinets regarding alignment, assembly, using staples, etc. Can’t imagine how that will hold up over time. Anyway, the amount of storage fantasic, the power system, HVAC, bath and all the other aspects of this build have been great. Was initially skeptical of the “diaper genie” toilet having become a fan of cassettes however the dry flush has really won us over for convenience. The rear cargo area, as demonstrated on a number of other brands, is such a benefit compared to the van. Sometimes “multi-purpose” becomes a headache over time when moving things around or reconfiguring for different uses. That headache so gone and not missed as I am sure anyone with this style truck can attest.
About the only negative is the lack of a true rotating front seat(s). The passenger seat can rotate 90 degrees however as previously discussed the bulkhead obstruction prevents more than that. Forget rotating the drivers seat.
So, with the many pluses and perhaps a few small cons, overall we are very satisfied with “Goldie”. She is a rig we expect to own for many years of exciting exploration around North America.
This door entry constraint led to a year long struggle to find the right vehicle for “us”. The Euphoria XL TB fits that requirement and then some.
The twin bed lay out has removed the daily climb overs to use the head as one of us usually has a midnight need to recycle fluids. Love the quality of the cabinets which other OEM’s still haven’t figured out that the best product in an Offroad vehicle for durability is aluminum. Some brands we investigated had absolutely the worst cabinets regarding alignment, assembly, using staples, etc. Can’t imagine how that will hold up over time. Anyway, the amount of storage fantasic, the power system, HVAC, bath and all the other aspects of this build have been great. Was initially skeptical of the “diaper genie” toilet having become a fan of cassettes however the dry flush has really won us over for convenience. The rear cargo area, as demonstrated on a number of other brands, is such a benefit compared to the van. Sometimes “multi-purpose” becomes a headache over time when moving things around or reconfiguring for different uses. That headache so gone and not missed as I am sure anyone with this style truck can attest.
About the only negative is the lack of a true rotating front seat(s). The passenger seat can rotate 90 degrees however as previously discussed the bulkhead obstruction prevents more than that. Forget rotating the drivers seat.
So, with the many pluses and perhaps a few small cons, overall we are very satisfied with “Goldie”. She is a rig we expect to own for many years of exciting exploration around North America.
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