Thanks for the info, It's very hard to find anything on all the phoenix campers. I believe this one is right over 8' being that it hangs over the tailgate about 4" Mine does not have the skirts on the rear of it. I'd like to see some pics of yours sometime. I'm still trying to figure out what everything does, I didn't get an owners manual so I'm flying blind. Here's a few more pics of the inside. I have some more cleaning to do today, the soft part of the pop up has mildew on the interior