QuadsBC's 05 Double Cab Tundra Family Expo Build

[thethePete]

I noticed the same thing on a different application, the Fox was just enough longer than the shock it replaced to cause issues at full bump. My suggestion would be to lop off the lower mount and get a universal mount and weld it on clocked down further. Warrior Products makes one for cheap that's like 3" long, you should be able to rotate it down a bit to gain some clearance, but be careful you don't go too far and have the body of the shock hit the axle. I did this with my Ranger so I could squeeze a 10" shock under the bed with stock upper mounts. The other option is to relocate your upper mounts either up, or slightly further away from where they are now (less ideal, because it'll upset the motion ratio of the shock more than just spinning the bottom one down a bit).

 

[QuadsBC]

I'm not sure if that's the right way to do it. Hanging the mount 3" lower will put it way below the axle and into harms way. Maybe doublecab and access cab have different shock mounts. I know the doublecab bed is a lot deeper. Not sure if they made the frame lower or the bed taller to do so.

I flexed the truck to see how the shock reacted. Lifted the tire 13". Shock is 1/8" off the shocks bump stop and I still have a full 1" until the factory bump stop makes contact. That's not even compressing the bump stop. I think if I'm driving straight down a road and hit a decent dip the shocks will bottom out. I'm pretty confident I can make the upper shock mount higher by 1.5-2" just not thrilled to do so.

 

[seanpistol]

I'm not usually one to show another man my shaft, but here it is-

 

[thethePete]

FWIW, the 3" mount doesn't hang 3" down off the axle. It's rotated back off the axle at about a 45* angle, so it's only down a half inch or inch lower than the stock one. It looks like the Tundra ones are quite flat off the axle, so you could gain a fair bit of shock clearance without much sacrifice. But if you can gain 2" in the upper mount, that would be the way to go. The upper mount on my Ranger is too close to the bed to move it up.

There are only two solutions, make the gap between the shock mounts bigger at compression, or get a shorter bodied shock. You can increase the gap by increasing the shock angle, which will decrease its effectiveness drastically, or move the upper mount up or lower mount down. I'm not intimate enough with these Tundras to know which one it makes more sense to move.

 

[seanpistol]

That doesn't look right at all... you sure you received the correct part? My shock does not bottom out before the bump stops do.

 

[thethePete]

Was coming back to edit and add, looking again at the picture of the two uninstalled shocks, the Fox seems to be almost a 2" longer shock body, I would say you got the wrong shocks. Or at least the wrong ones for your application.

 

[QuadsBC]

Anyone confirm 985-24-009 ? That's what is stamped on the bottom of the shock too

 

[seanpistol]

Where exactly is it stamped? I just crawled around and didn't see anything on the bottom of mine.

 

[QuadsBC]

I'm not usually one to show another man my shaft, but here it is-

It's so shiny. I'm calling fox tomorrow. I'm not sure if these are the right ones I ordered or if the bottom stamped plate is on the wrong length body.

 

[wrenchMonkey_]

Interesting. My two cents, from your tape measure picture, the length of the shock looks to be correct. 10.0" travel, 26.15"OAL 16.05" COAL.
I was thinking about putting the same shocks on my 06 DC, but I have a 1.5in block in the rear. (phrasing)

Interest to see how you resolve it. AAL, Block, Spring Under Kit , Shackle Flip with longer Shackle. Happily a few more good options now for us late 1st Gens or just go for a full bed Cage and some bypass shocks

 

[rickashay]

My shocks:

Fox P/N: 985-24-009 Extended Length: 26.15" Compressed Length: 16.05"

You could always raise the bumpstop too. a U-Bolt flip will move the bumpstop up 1.2" due to the thickness of the plate. However, mine still cleared beforehand.

Proof in the pudding - No U-Bolt flip and Wheelers 3-leaf AAL:

IMG_5001.jpg by Addison Rickaby, on Flickr

At ride height with above setup, but ad U-Bolt flip:

2016-02-11_07-50-17 by Addison Rickaby, on Flickr

Above, but with Archive Garage SFK w/factory shackle:

IMG_6688.jpg by Addison Rickaby, on Flickr

 

[toyotech]

Your ride height is lower than Sean and Addison. Mine doesn't show as much chrome either but my ride height is much lower. When compression just one side and letting the other side droop (done on a rocky trail and not with a floor jack). I can compress pass the bump stop.

Unfortunately I don't have enough chrome to fly down fire roads and have it not bottom out.

I need to reevaluate once I do the SFK and custom leaf springs. See if I need to relocate the upper shock mount.


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[theBullfrog125]

I haven't ever seen the upper mount on a Tundra. Anyone have a pic? How diffcult would it be to relocate the upper mounts?

 

[smokeysevin]

My lower Mounts are a little different than stock, I have the ruffstuff mounts (http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/SBSIDEMT.html) which are nice mounts but roll the shock up the side of the axle tube (which is bad) My setup is basically like this but with a much lower ride height.

I will be switching this up soon so I can fit my Nitro Bumps, Air Bags, and cantilever Arms.

I need to get a different set of mounts though and play with the valving in the shocks as its a little too soft for my g57s.

Sean

 

[toyotech]

I haven't ever seen the upper mount on a Tundra. Anyone have a pic? How diffcult would it be to relocate the upper mounts?

Basically have to weld in new ones further inwards. Makes shocks less effective but that also depends on what springs and shocks you run


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