School me on home-defense (gun related).

[Jonathan Hanson]

If you have no fear why are you prepared. The point of prepardness is to help deal with the fear of a possible situation.

It's not "fear." Fear will most certainly be a factor if and when I hear glass breaking in the middle of the night - as someone mentioned, it would be stupid not to be afraid then. But fear plays no part in preparedness; that's simply common sense and the acceptance that bad things can happen. I don't "fear" drowning when I'm sea kayaking, but I always wear a PFD. I don't "fear" having a drunk driver sideswipe me every time I drive to town, but you won't see me without a seat belt.

Fear is supposed to be a momentary emotion, not a way of life.

 

[Superu]

Find what you're comfortable with for yourself and your family, and be positive and supportive of others, even where their personal choices are different from yours.

Amen to that. :ylsmoke:

 

[Dave Bennett]

Mark, I'm glad to hear he is home. Be safe.

X2

That is good news indeed Mark! Give a holler if you need any help!

 

[Dave Bennett]

Are you serious?? You would considering buying a gun to ward off people whom your son owes money?? How about this idea? Give your son the money to pay them back, dope slap him for borrowing money from thugs, and move on with life! Man...I guess I have less in common with people on ExPo than I thought....

You don't fully understand Marks situation, or the particulars of his sons "friends"...

I totally understand his reasoning.

 

[awalter]

And . . . Brian. "Pit Bull?" Surely you were speaking theoretically, and not referring to that bundle of joy-to-the-world that is Cherokee?

Brian is probably referring to breaking the felon's legs with Chrokee's wagging tail.:shakin:

Al

 

[DarinM]

I was thinking either that or just banking on the chance that they're allergic to dog slobber... :drool:

Brian is probably referring to breaking the felon's legs with Chrokee's wagging tail.:shakin:

Al

 

[BIGdaddy]

:lurk:

 

[Mayne]

I've been waiting for the old "sound of the pump action scaring them off" to come around.

There are two things that racking your gun may do in the situations described.

One is a possibility.

The other is a certainty.

One: It may scare off the intruder who is not looking to get shot. This assumes he is not on crack, meth, or who knows what else.

Two: It will immediately tell the intruder where you are.

Quickly achieving the two least likely outcomes you would want in this situation. Giving up your advantage of surprise and enabling him to act in a hostile manner towards your position.

They'll have a hard time hearing it over the 110lb German Shepard and 50lb Malinios. I have no doubts about the dogs, as they do not have second thoughts, or remorse. I use the gun as a final out. I don't want to shoot my dogs either. If the intruder over comes the dogs, that person is going to die. No if ands or buts. They will kill me, and I will not let that happen.

 

[Mayne]

It's often believed that with a shotgun you take the requirement to aim out of the picture. I agree a shotgun is more forgiving than a handgun in this respect, and certainly don't take anything away from those that choose a shotgun over a handgun as a HD weapon. However, I think you'll find that at the typical distances for a home/self defense encounter you do need to aim the shotgun. You are probably looking at a 4-6" pattern, so it is possible to miss your intended target.

Agreed, but in a 5 to 6 foot hallway, your odd go up regardless of what you shoot. I'd just prefer lots of .32cal bbs going down range, then say 1 .45cal slug. Anyway you look at it, it equals no fun. I've been in the situation where I've waited for the breaking in to happen, (it was in progress) and luckily it didn't. I was younger by far, but I remember the nerves and tunnel vision. I shook for 12 hrs after that. I just really want the cards stacked on my side in that gamble, so I'll take the pump gun. (and the dogs)

Mayne

 

[goodtimes]

And . . . Brian. "Pit Bull?" Surely you were speaking theoretically, and not referring to that bundle of joy-to-the-world that is Cherokee?

Brian is probably referring to breaking the felon's legs with Chrokee's wagging tail.:shakin:

I was thinking either that or just banking on the chance that they're allergic to dog slobber... :drool:

Hey now! Cherokee can be one mean SOB. I told her that anyone who comes through the door without my permission is the person who ate her last pig ear. And let me tell you, when someone ******ks with her pig ears, it gets ugly.

But even if that does fail...she can still break their legs and drown them in slobber...:snorkel:

 

[Cackalak Han]

Agreed, but in a 5 to 6 foot hallway, your odd go up regardless of what you shoot. I'd just prefer lots of .32cal bbs going down range, then say 1 .45cal slug. Anyway you look at it, it equals no fun. I've been in the situation where I've waited for the breaking in to happen, (it was in progress) and luckily it didn't. I was younger by far, but I remember the nerves and tunnel vision. I shook for 12 hrs after that. I just really want the cards stacked on my side in that gamble, so I'll take the pump gun. (and the dogs)

Mayne

Maybe it's because I've had my shotgun for a long time, but I feel better with it than a pistol. Perhaps with more practice time with the revolver, I'll feel more comfortable.

Also, speaking of shotguns, I am thinking of picking up another barrel for my 870 (pref used), and cutting it down to 18.5" (legal length is 18"). I'll also have to make sure the overall length is over 26". But I think it would be nice to have a shorter shotgun in those nerve-wracking, tunnel vision situations. I've heard about people that miss with a pistol from a very short distance.

 

[Jonathan Hanson]

I've heard about people that miss with a pistol from a very short distance.

I read about an incident in New York City ages ago. Cab drivers were being robbed at gunpoint, so the NYPD put some undercover officers in cabs. Sure enough, one of them found a revolver pointed at him from the back seat. The cop drew his own .38, and both blokes emptied their weapons at each other from a distance of two feet. Clean misses, every shot.

The cop subdued the guy by jumping into the back seat and beating him to a pulp.

 

[BIGdaddy]

total siegway....but this is why I like movies like "open range" or "the assassination of jesse james by the coward robert ford."

most of the the shots fired are misses and the hits are survived usually. Very true most of the time.

 

[7wt]

The cop subdued the guy by jumping into the back seat and beating him to a pulp.

That sounds like pulp fiction to me :sombrero:

 

[SunTzuNephew]

total siegway....but this is why I like movies like "open range" or "the assassination of jesse james by the coward robert ford."

most of the the shots fired are misses and the hits are survived usually. Very true most of the time.

Or TV's A-Team? A (alleged) Special Forces A-Team, firing a minimum of 10,000 rounds per episode, and not ONCE actually hitting anyone?