Snorkel Wars

Scott Brady

Founder
Ursidae69 said:
Had someone crossed before you? I guess they would have to get that photo of you. How well did the other vehicle do?

Yes, Anais (daughter of my French sponsor) drove across with Stephanie Hackney and me, then I drove the truck over and back again for better "documentation" and "testing".

The other vehicle was a Mitsubishi Fuso FG 4x4. Very heavy, and nearly unaffected by the crossing.

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Ursidae69 said:
I suspect that a few years ago you wouldn't have made that crossing, but now you have the itch to build a new truck so you are pushing the envelope on the Taco.

I am taking more risks with the Taco now... The 35" tires should show up next week sometime.

Not really itching too much for another truck yet. Too many other projects at the moment. I am sure next spring will bring a new addition to the Brady driveway.
 

Alaska Mike

ExPo Moderator/Eye Candy
Love that picture, Scott. I can hear you now, singing the '93 Camel Trophy theme song, "Sabah-Malaysia...". That crossing reminds me of what the Purches Creek crossing looks like in the spring as the snow melts off of the surrounding mountain peaks. You can't see the rocks, just white ripples. The first time I ran it, I got pushed about 50' downstream before I caught a sand berm and pulled out. That water was hauling. :REExeSwimmingHL:

To contribute even more to the thread that wouldn't die:
I didn't have a snorkel on the CJ until this past spring. I picked up an ARB TJ snorkel for $75 from a friend and installed it on a whim. I had run creeks and rivers up to the windshield for years without one (the filter never got wet), thanks to a fortunate air filter location, some small modifications, and maintaining the engine air pocket. Don't get me wrong- there were times I wished I had one for the extra security, I just never could justify the expense. Now that I have one, I'm plumbing everything I can into the air box.

I've noticed how they cut down on dust as well, so I consider the effort of installing it worth my time and the money I invested. If I was still in a dry climate I would probably have spent the money elsewhere, but for where I am located it seems like more than "bling". Then again, if I drove a rig that was a little more common on the street (like a Toyota), I would probably try to dress it up with semi-functional objects (bumpers/brushguard/snorkel) to make it look less like something that rolled off the dealer's lot. Add a little custom pinstriping, and the soccer moms just swoon.
 

pete.wilson

Adventurer
Hey

So size does matter! Tires that is.

How did you know if the rain swollen water was safe to cross? We always hear you shouldn't; of course there are differences between stock vehicles and capable vehicles. Know of any snorkel kits for a mid-90's suburban?
 

kcowyo

ExPo Original
Alaska Mike said:
To contribute even more to the thread that wouldn't die....
If he hadn't recently had a baby, I feel confident that articulate would proclaim this thread his proudest accomplishment.

I'm amazed too how often this thread pops back to the surface, as if it had an extended breathing apparatus of it's own. :snorkel:


*Props to Mr.'s Hackney & Brady for some really cool photos -
 

big sky trapper

Adventurer
Know of any snorkel kits for a mid-90's suburban?


well no. BUT....this works not to bad if your willing to re fab the air box....

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A mid 90's burb should be the same....

Its off an 88 yoda fits pretty darn close....an old pic of and old truck i used to run...going to build my new one just like it. But I often wondered if the 84-85 yoda kit wouldnt fit flatter....hmmm i have one sitting in the yard might have to take it off and see how flat it will go on.....
 

pete.wilson

Adventurer
Hey

Thanks Big Sky Trapper.......I've got a friend who lives in Roberts, MT.; I love that area. He works for Big Sky Airlines out of Billings.
 

flyingwil

Supporting Sponsor - Sierra Expeditions
Hmmmm... A few more Snorkels have popped up on the forum... yet this thread lacks their input.

BTW... I love this thread!
 

cruiser guy

Explorer
expeditionswest said:
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The current was so strong that is moved my 6,000 lb truck about 5 feet down stream.

Photos: Doug Hackney

Originally Posted by ExpeditionsWest.com

Never attempt to cross water that is over hood height, and avoid crossing fast moving sources exceeding the vehicles tire height.



The above quote is from page 2 of this thread. Anyone see a little contradiction?? Someone has to ask the question! It looks to me like there is a drop off of some sort to the left side of the picture as well creating a rather dangerous scenario in my opinion.
 

goodtimes

Expedition Poseur
I suspect that the water is indeed less than hood deep, save for the bow wave. Also keep in mind that another vehicle had already crossed, so they had a very good idea about the conditions.

He is still a little crazy though.
 

Scott Brady

Founder
cruiser guy said:
Originally Posted by ExpeditionsWest.com

Never attempt to cross water that is over hood height, and avoid crossing fast moving sources exceeding the vehicles tire height.



The above quote is from page 2 of this thread. Anyone see a little contradiction??

As a general rule, absolutely. In this case, the most technical portion of the river was shorter than the WB of the truck and easily crossable.

I would never recommend someone cross that river. What I do on my own is for the purpose of testing the limits, which helps make me a better and more experienced driver.

And don't forget, Doug is a professional photographer and I am a professional driver, both using what was a relatively benign crossing for maximum visual effect.

Watch the video, and it will all make more sense.
 

Michael Slade

Untitled
expeditionswest said:
And don't forget, Doug is a professional photographer and I am a professional driver...

As Han Solo said to Luke Skywalker in SW ep IV...

"Don't get cocky kid!"

I skipped through this thread, and in the little I read I didn't read much about any pre-filters?

I have a Donaldson on mine and it works well...I haven't ever filled it up, but I generally go out alone and am not eating dust from trucks in front of me.
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
Having actualy Lived in Australia and run many LC75's with Diesels and Snorkels I'll add another vote for cleaner air. Try hitting the Birdsville Track without one and you'll be cleaning out your air box every 100 miles or so. Another thing everyone overlooks is that most places where these Snorkels are used, they're used on Diesel engines which have different waterproofing needs. I'm adding one to my 4Runner cause of teh added induction properties, it's a 22re and every little bit of the combination counts.
 

Scott Brady

Founder
Michael Slade said:
As Han Solo said to Luke Skywalker in SW ep IV...

"Don't get cocky kid!"

Good point Michael.

The statement was not meant to be boastful, just that the circumstances allowed for a dramatic effect, where there was little to no actual danger. Something that can be created with some experience, both on the driver's and photographer's part.
 

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